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James, how's things?
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Things are well. I'm uh I'm doing this interview, by the way. Great to see you.
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I'm doing this interview from Vgginia, Brazil. Amazing. And things are really cracking here.
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Like it's really it's it's really I think I feel like this is the beginning of the beginning. Really?
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That's really exciting to hear. So I mean firstly, congratulations on the new version of Merman and Contacts. New Revelations of Alien Encounters. I
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watched it twice. I watched it last night and and a week or so ago.
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Fantastic. I like how you've blended in the new stuff with the the previous work on the on the case. So, you know, we are
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limited for time. So, just tell us you're in Venian now. What is the latest with this investigation?
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So, for the first time in history, we got together with all of the doctors together in the same space. Yeah, Dr.
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Janini, the forensic path pathologist that did the uh deep the tissue sample analysis uh from the deceased military
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officer, Marco Sharice, the uh Dr. Armando who did the actual autopsy on the deceased military
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officer. Uh Dr. Cesario, who actually tried to keep the military officer alive,
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uh, threw the kitchen sink at him and he said that the the bacteria wasn't responding to any of the antibiotics, which he's never seen before and he's
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never seen since. Um, we uh we got Dr. Italo, the neurosurgeon, who
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allegedly had face-toface contact with the bean in captivity. he was there, his wife, all their wives, and uh
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just really sort of getting to know them and how long they've known each other and and just getting in that inner circle. Um for a number of reasons,
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right? I mean, just establishing credibility and what what's their how long they've known him and, you
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know, 30 plus years, 40 years, 45 years, friends with their wives. I mean, these
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guys is a tight group of of of doctors and they're all supporting him coming
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forward with that claim. Uh, more than supporting him, believe I I have it all on camera and I'll be releasing some clips probably as early as today about
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just some of those meetings. But, so that's happening. We met with the new mayor. Um, we're having a screening here in town tonight and I'm doing the best I
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can to get more people to come forward because I feel power in numbers and safety. Um, we we met for the first time
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with a nurse uh last night and they um this individual
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uh said, "I know Dr. Italo is telling the truth." And I said, "How do you know that?" And this individual's like, "Because I was in the room." I was holy.
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Wow.
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Yeah. So, it's really, you know, it's really it's really happening. And obviously, you know, I know your audience people feel frustrated like
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where's the video? Where's the photograph? Like, if there's anybody on the planet, in fact, let let me start that one again. There's no one on the planet trying harder than me. Okay?
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Believe me, I if you if they knew 150th of the efforts that we're making to get my hands on that, you you just have our team. It's it's unbelievable.
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And that's the 35 second clip, is it?
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That the Oh, there's a bunch there. No, we've discovered there's there's more. There's photographs. There's video taken from multiple sources. No question.
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Oh, wow.
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I just No question. I I sort of have the impression on on some of it is uh is that they all need to be on the same
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page. And look, I could be wrong, but this is the the feeling I get is that they all because it exposes people in in
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in it. So, they all need to be on the same page. this is we're going to release this, right? So maybe one of the doctors or who knows, but we're we've
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got names. We're we're we're doing our best.
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Amazing. So where's the pressure coming from mostly or the the concern? Is it because of the Brazilian military? You know, they silenced these people back,
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you know, 29 years ago or whatever it was.
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Um people are concerned that have no evidence coming forward. So, you can imagine if you've got evidence you've got a big target on your back, right?
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Yeah.
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Um, we met with an individual last night that again, it's just a claim, right? I don't know if it's true, but I don't
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know why this individual is not going on camera or anything and not trying to sell me anything, but this individual was saying that his friend was in the military and he kept one of the pieces
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at the crash site and he was describing exactly what it was and and you know that you crumple it up and it would retake its form and and that the
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military got wind of it and they went and and took it and uh and and Yeah. You shouldn't have talked about it.
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Yes. Wow.
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So, you know, but but but in terms of like really compelling firsthand
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eyewitness testimony, I think this is the strongest case by far in the world.
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And um and the vast majority of of firsthand witnesses are still alive and they're of the of the age now where they're like, well, if I'm ever going to
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come forward, now's the time because they're not getting any younger. If they were in their 40s, for instance, they'd be in their 70s. In their 50s, they'd be
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in their 80s. Unfortunately, the um the chief of police, well, um Pedro Auad
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Aguari, something like this. Sorry to get mispronounced his name. Um he we got him on camera, thank God, uh this year, and he just died.
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Oh, wow.
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So, yeah. Uh and and one another one of the crash witnesses uh in Eureo um Fras
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I think is a one of the farmers that that was a witness to the object that with a tear in the back of it. We have a new witness now. Fabio Forado
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um went out to his farm and then we mapped it out. I don't know if you noticed that with what we did this time is we took like Google maps and then we
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we were like okay well where is this person live and where does this person where is this witness and where was the impact site and and now it all makes
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sense everything all the pieces of the puzzle line up perfectly. It was incredible, you know, to see that. And
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um yeah, and and and the the former um investigator, one of the lead investigators, Victoria Pakuchini, is uh
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he went off the radar for the better part of 20 years, and he's he's he's back in the mix now. And his he was the one that says, "I'll put my hand on a
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Bible and take a public lie detector test." his his friends because he grew up in Teskar so which is like the region where Eza military base is and he
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and he knows those people and those are the people that he claims showed him the another video the the the video that was taken and they did it because the
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Americans apparently were coming in and taking everything and out of protest without authorization they just shot like a short video of the creature in
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captivity at Eza I think it was either Ezar or Campinus and that's the thing they You know, you say the puzzle pieces all make sense
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now. They really do. And and the journey that the being or beings took from uh the regional hospital to Humanitas to
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Issa to Campinas and then to the US. I mean, there's so many people now just confirming that timeline and it's just I mean, it's so compelling. It really is.
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It's it's absolutely insane. And um I don't know how much I can reveal here, but it's Christmas. Come on.
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Well, no, cuz I because I don't want to jeopardize show. But uh we we uh we are
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probably we highly probable maybe tonight. If I have to stay up all night to do it, I will. Uh we're going to go
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um uh I don't want to give the location, but uh we're going to meet with an individual that allegedly uh was uh part
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of the military operation. And this individual doesn't want to come forward publicly, but this individual is
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considering letting us record all their credentials on camera and a statement on camera that I can present to the United
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States uh to members, select members of Congress in the United States along with all the other testimony, right? So that
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this individual is considering allowing me to do that having trust in me that I'm not going to expose, you know, cuz they're pretty sorry I keep sipping
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coffee. I just literally I haven't had coffee. No problem at all.
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Anyway, yeah. So it it it's it's it's extraordinary. And you know, I I've seen a couple of um people online like, "Oh,
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well, I saw this, you know, you know, interview with Dr. Italo, the neurosurgeon, and he said that he only saw the video and didn't see the
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creature. I was like, "Yeah, that was us." Because we have someone that's been working within, and I got to be careful
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what I say here, but we have someone who we we meet with for over a decade that works at the hospital.
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And this individual's like, "You should go talk to this person. I've heard that this person wink wink." You know, so we heard
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we heard that Dr. Italo had seen the video because that's been our primary objective is to get our hands on the evidence. And so we approached we approached Dr.
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Italo having no idea that he was a firsthand witness to the creature. I mean, we were just like, "Yeah, we heard that so and so said that they showed you the vid," you know.
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Yeah.
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So, we went there on camera. It was our team. was Marco. And uh and I actually did a Zoom uh I did a video call with
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him and uh and when he admitted he admitted to having seen the the the video. He's like, "Yeah, I saw the
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video." I was I said, "Oh my god." So now he calls me, "Oh my god." He's like, "You're" But he's like, "No, I didn't." He wasn't ready. He he said he wasn't
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ready at that point. He wasn't ready to come forward. He just wasn't ready. So he denied seeing the creature. I didn't even think I didn't think to ask him to
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saw the creature. I think Marco did but but um but now he said uh you know it's been about a year he um he had a heart
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attack then he got prostate cancer and his fellow neurosurgeon Marcos Vinesis who was also present uh had a
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heart attack and died in 2018 and he said he was staring at the ceiling in the ICU and he was like you know what if
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I survive this I'm I'm coming I'm coming out I'm I'm going all out all in on this and So, you know, we were in the right
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place at the right time. We were interviewing the two forensic pathologists uh about these extraordinary observations of the bacteria and we were like, "Oh, and by
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the way, you know, we're trying to get in touch with Dr. Echelo." And we'd met with him like a year ago on camera, but he just won't he wouldn't get back to us. It was like he was being very
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evasive and I would jokingly say he's like trying to grab a bar of soap in the bathtub, you know, just was like one second he's there and you know, he just
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gone. And Dr. Cesario will be that way as well. And because it's a big commitment and this this is a career.
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Like you're going to come forward and you're working on people's brains and say, "Yeah, by the way, I had a face-to-face contact and communication with a live alien." Like, you really
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think that's a career enhancing move for him? Like that's, you know, it's a really big deal. And so anyway, um the
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Dr. Amando when we were interviewing him this year, we said, "Oh, by the way, we're trying to get a hold, you know,
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and he's let me Okay. Okay. Tomorrow morning, he's going to meet you. Go around the back." Amazing.
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We're going to meet you around the back gate. And you know, what's he going to say? You know, we we we didn't know what was going to happen. and he sneaks us
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into the hospital in the back like through the back door basically and takes us and we're takes us into the ice
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the ICU the very room where the creature sat in the bed in that room like it happened right here and at first he
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starts talking about the video I saw the video and then apparently there was like a they put like a temporary drape like a
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curtain you know from where the creature was and I guess Marcos Vinesis was like showing the video because he'd done a
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pursuit the creature and then there the creature was and that's and just decides
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the hell with it. He he he literally said whatever the consequences are, I'm willing to I don't care anymore. I'm I'm I just I can't take this to the grave.
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And the we're interviewing in there and we weren't supposed to we had we had to have all the you know gear on because you can't go in the ICU with all the all the stuff, right?
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Sure. And and then we get caught, they kick us out. He's like, I think I just got fired. Like, you know, we go to we we wanted to finish kind of filming with
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him a little bit more. We go outside and then we go in some cafe just everyone in the cafe is like, what's going on here?
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Like a doctor's coming in and we're you this whole crew of Americans and anyway and um yeah, and it's been rough with
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for him initially. Um, but then we've been meeting. I've been here. I've been here three times and I'm coming back again next month in this year alone.
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Wow. Because I wanted to make sure that Dr.
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Etolo knows that we have his back and that the community has his back and that whether you believe him or not, this man
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has dedicated his life to helping people in the community. Everybody knows him.
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He's been here forever. um and to to have respect and be kind and you know and just
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so um and then the the rest of the community particularly Dr. Armando which runs all the hospitals and he was the guy that did the autopsy on the deceased military officer Marco Ruiz.
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Yeah.
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Um he has he he assured us that he is that he's protected like they have his back which is great. And I said if you
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lose your job because it was rough for a little while um I'll do I'll do a GoFundMe and we'll
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but but right now it's okay. So um it's it's it's pretty crazy over here right now. I can only imagine. Yeah. No, for sure.
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I mean, just sticking with Dr. Itello, you know, there's a point where he gets quite emotional towards the end of the of the documentary, and you can almost
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see that this guy is is not doing it for any other reason other than to get to get it off his chest.
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He has not asked for one dime.
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One dime. There's things happening. I I promise you there's things happening. I just Yeah. There there there's things happening.
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Yeah. That involve Jesus, no worries. And the watching the documentary again, you know, with uh
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comparing it to the original release in 2022, I believe it was that one scene where you go and try and meet with Eric
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Lopez, the driver. Um, you know, is is that lead completely dead and buried now? Is that is he just adamant he's never going to come forward?
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Last night, we had a decision to make the crew here, and it was go meet with some town officials that
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really wanted us to go meet with or go to church because we know what church he goes to at 6:00 p.m. on Sunday.
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Wow. I kind of wish we would have gone to the church last night, but we had to make a decision and people that are
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being um extremely um we just had to film some a bunch of statements that it's part of this
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project that we're doing next month. And uh so we got the like the official like um city hall with the flags and the
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podium and all this stuff. And those people that were made that happen for us invited us to an event last night. So we
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had to make a decision. Are we gonna go to that or we're gonna go to try to track down Lopes? Um we did um contact
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his wife after that incident. And I said, cuz I always say, you know, when I
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ask somebody, I don't I don't say like, you know, would you consider or you know, I say, what's it going to take,
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right, for you to come forward? What is it going to take? Like, just hit me with it, you know, and I said to his wife
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through someone else, "What is it going to take to get a statement from Eric Lopes, your husband?" And she said, and it just so happens, people a lot of
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people don't know this, she her brother was was Marco Sharice. So
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Marco Sharice, the military officer who allegedly grabbed the creature when it was alive, got a little scratch from the
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nail under the arm. That's what [snorts] killed him. Yeah.
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His sister married the driver, Eric Lopes. So I said, "What's it going to take to get your husband, Mr. Lopes to
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come forward and she said, "Bring my brother back to life and then he'll talk." Wow.
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That's one. Wow.
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Yeah. That's a That's That's Yeah, I'm pretty good at making things happen, but that's O.
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Yeah. [clears throat] Hey, but you know, another talk about the air traffic controller that we see. Yeah. Sure. Go on.
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So, yeah. No, I was going to say because when the first version of this film came out, this was before all the congressional hearings and the allegations of crash retrieval and the Dave Grush stuff, you know what I mean?
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So, I felt like I feel like, you know, it might have maybe it was a little premature or were people ready for it? I don't know.
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And I feel also that the case on its own
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because I know personally because I was working on my second UFO film in the late 90s um out of the blue. I know my
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response to it when I was already doing a UFO documentary. Like I'm already making a film on UFOs and I'd heard about it from my partner Tim Coleman.
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And my response was, "This guy needs to up the the dosage of whatever medication he's on cuz he's lost his bloody mind.
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I'm not going to spend one second looking into this absolute nonsense." Like, I that was I dismissed it faster than you could possibly imagine. Right?
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So, I know what it's like for people that have limited uh information on on
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the phenomenon. Uh that that this is a this is a a very difficult uh case to
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even consider believing, right? I I I understand that really well because I dismissed it for over a decade. I
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wouldn't even look into it. And so I feel like the case on its own,
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hey, while extremely compelling, but you know, but then you got the congressional hearings,
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right? All the congressional hearings, all the allegations at the highest levels. I mean, these people are are testifying under oath to a bipartisan
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group of lawmakers, you know, under oath. There are consequences for lying to Congress under oath. Like what, you
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know, And that coupled with so you have the allegations on the American side all the
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congressional hearings and then you have this case and I think between the two it's making the most compelling argument
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uh that's been made in my humble opinion. [clears throat] So [cough] excuse me. So, I really think that they they need each other, right?
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[clears throat] And you have Dan Farah's film, Age of Disclosure, and
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that look, people can criticize all they want. Oh, where's the evidence? That is
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the highest level officials that I have ever seen in my life going on the record talking about crash retrieval and
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reverse engineering and the technology and all that stuff. That's not not a big deal. Okay.
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But they don't provide any cases which is fine. I'm not criticizing it in that respect. So, it's like you've got age of disclosure, you've got the congressional
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hearings, you've got allegations at the highest levels of government, and then now you have the case and this is the case. I in my opinion, this is the case that's going to tip the scales.
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[clears throat and cough]
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I really hope so. I mean, if any case is going to, it will be this one. And I was just going to say, you know, we've got the air traffic controller talking about, you know, the US coming in this
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Yusf aircraft and helicopters flying to Venia and then, you know, you know, pretty compelling as well. But you know, you've made friends with a lot of people
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in government in the US in the congressional halls, let's say. Have you spoken to them about potentially digging in to see if we can find any more
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evidence about this Yusf connection because that was so right. Okay.
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Oh my gosh. I've been colossal effort. I mean, you saw the you [clears throat] saw the foyer request, right? Yes. Yeah.
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In the movie. So, it took three years to get a response and the response came from the CIA. So Richard basically requesting all the flight logs of any
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USF, United States Air Force planes coming in uh and landing in Campenis, right? And and it was like basically,
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you know, you guys can kick rocks. It's national security. It's like, you know, no, you know, we can't confirm nor deny, I think, is what they said. But we're
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just asking for flight logs, right? But I can assure you, I can assure you and your audiences that
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I'm absolutely speaking with members of Congress and trying to find one. There's nobody that wants to find all that stuff
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more than me. I actually got contacted by someone who uh sent me an email which I I remember thinking this is one of the reasons why I'm providing a proton email
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now. sent me an email via Google Gmail and uh I was like this is it. He's like,
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"This individual claimed to be on the plane from Campinas, told me the rank, like you know, blah blah blah, all these
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details and and then that just unfortunately fizzled out, but the
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initial effort, the initial email that I got was so convincing that this individ I get a lot of, you know, but it was so convincing how how hard it's weighed on
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him and all this stuff and the details of the flight and that the alien was on the plane and just all this stuff and I was like, "Holy this is it
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and then it was like oh my email got hacked and I don't know what you're talking about and oh and I I was just oh god so I don't know if somebody got to
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him I don't know if it was a prank I doubt it if you read when I show you the email and you read it you'll be like whoa this this individual really sounds
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like they're involved but anyway to answer your question I'm rambling at this point but I'm making every every effort possible plea possible to to to
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get people on the American side to come forward Brilliant. Let's just hope something turns up. Uh I wanted to ask you, you
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know, if if something like Vinia happened today, how do you think it would be different from, you know, 29, 30 years ago? How it would unfold?
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Let's see, 7,596 photographs and videos. H,
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[laughter]
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right? I know. I know. Yeah.
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That's crazy. That's how it would be different.
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Yeah. Uh we did something yesterday that that that has never been done before and I invited
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uh for a uh for a lunch here in the house that we're renting um all the family members, the cousins, the
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brothers, the mothers, the grandmothers, the daughters, um the sons of all the witnesses. And so we can get statements
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to them on camera on how this has impacted their their their family, you know, how how this has affected them because like there's a backstory to all
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of it because most of the time we just focus on the witnesses but what about the impact on the families?
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How is like the mother of the of the girls, you know, how how has it affected her? What all these things? It was
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incredible. And I'm going to be releasing those those statements uh in in in the weeks ahead of us just because
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it's very interesting. I just got to put subtitles and everything else on them once we get some time. But but it's very interesting to to hear from the from the
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family members that um uh how this is has impacted them, how what their thoughts are on it and you know all that
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stuff. It's it's fascinating. It is and you say it is a very good point because these people are affected just as much as the direct witnesses who are
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involved. You know, you mentioned the girl's mother, wasn't she visited by, you know, men in suits offering her lots of money to stay quiet? So, you know,
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she's directly affected by this in in quite a, you know, it must be traumatizing.
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She um she was the first case where I finally said, "Okay, I I I believe these
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so-called I hate to even use the word men in black. It's men in men in suits that show up around the world,
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intimidate, harass, threaten." Um I'd heard about them for two decades prior to this, you know. I never went all in
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on it because I was just like, uh, you know, come on, you know? And then when Louisa, the mother of the two girls,
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Liliani and Valkyia, said, "Oh," and then these men showed up and they were intimidating. They had a
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briefcase and they offered they they basically said they were very forceful.
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They basically said and it was at night and the door somebody knocked at the door and she was like, you know, there
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was various uh UFO researchers involved in the case like Uberada and Pakuchini.
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And so she's like, "Oh, it must be packaging a jada." And she gets to the door and then they she opens the door.
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It's like, "Oh my god, who who are these guys?" And they they came in forcefully and uh offered her money and that and
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the and the snag the catch was that she had to get her daughters to go to a press conference and then say they were all lying uh and do that, that that's
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not what they saw, blah blah blah, and they could leave the country and live happily ever after. And she's like, you know, devout Christian. and she's like,
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I'm my daughters aren't liars. I'm not going to do that.
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But I really believed her. I just looked at her and I thought, I got a report on this. I'm I I
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this is it for me. That was the that's the straw that broke the camel's back.
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That was her testimony of those of the visit she got really I I found incredibly compelling and I absolutely
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believe believe her, you know, about that. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. Well, James, I know we're stuck for time, so two more questions. Um, where can people go and watch the new um version of Moment of Contact?
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Um, you you should have the Genius links. I don't if they didn't provide them to you already, but it's uh Amazon,
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Apple, Fandango, Google. Um, and I can provide I can make sure that you have those various links. And we had it
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translated. I did the best I could in record time in as many languages we could possibly do. And I will also make
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sure that uh after a few months that we transfer over to various streaming platforms that people can watch it for
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free uh online. I I'll do the best I can to get it distributed to as many places as possible.
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Amazing. I will make sure any links are that are available to me will be in the description of this. Finally, James
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Venia to the side. Looking forward 2026 and onwards, what's the next project for you?
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Well, [clears throat] that next project for me is I I can't really talk about it right now, but it's happening next month. [laughter] And then I'm going to make a movie about
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that project and I'll release that. And then I'm going to uh I think I'm going to try and make a a major motion picture on this case because I think it's the real life ET.
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So, this case next month is is a whole new case. Uh no, it's an event. Yeah.
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Okay. Yeah, it's an event and involvement. Well, James, listen. [laughter] That's exciting. So exciting.
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I'm not trying to be I'm not I'm not trying to be evasive. I I really would love to just give you all the details. I just can't.
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I was asked not to. So, yeah.
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Right now. [clears throat] Yeah.
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I appreciate it. Well, James, thank you for your time today. I really do appreciate it. Thanks, man. I appreciate you very much.
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Thanks, Vinnie.