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in recent years numerous members of Congress have stepped forward to shed light on the UAP discussion from a
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bipartisan and legislative perspective Congressman Tim burchett representing the second district of Tennessee
Chapter 4: CONGRESSMAN TIM BURCHETT
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discusses his personal views on the subject matter including if he's an advocate for leaked government UAP footage
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join us as we get rebelliously curious Congressman thank you so much for joining me on rebelliously carius today
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it is a pleasure to have you thank you ma'am I know that you have interest in UFOs
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and you've been very vocal about it in the media in recent years especially this year from what I've seen
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I'd like to start off our conversation with how did you get yourself involved in the UAP topic and then along with why
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are you championing this in Congress well I've never never seen a UFO that I know of um when I was a young young boy you know
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back when parent when you could ride your bicycle a couple of miles to the library and you could spend all day there and not be in trouble for it not
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your parents wouldn't be in trouble for letting you letting you do it um they would always have the book set up at the library you know that you know
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and one time I think they had something you know UFOs Bigfoot Loch Ness monster so you know
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and I always just took an interest in in the unusual and the unknown and if somebody told me not to do it that would
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make me that much more interested and um and I read up on it and I read all the books and the magazines as a kid you
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know and at night I'd go out and hope to see something never did but um as I got older I still remain
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interested in it and um I was I was uh crossing the street near the
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Capitol Hill Club and there's a guy there from TMZ I don't know if you know what that is it's the you know it's kind
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of the news comedy kind of thing and they catch people in gas and stuff and they say stuff you know and right unfortunately I do yes ma'am well the
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reporter said hey have you and what do you think of the UFO report and I said I think it's a joke I think it's a
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cover-up I said more people believe in UFOs than believing in Congress and and I ended up putting that on a T-shirt and I sell it on my website
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oddly enough that very quote because that's the truth and I said what about the report and I said brother I said that thing
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I said it'll be so redacted it'll look like a piece of Swiss cheese and he's like really they said they're going to release that's they're not gonna release anything I mean they haven't released
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stuff from the Kennedy files and everybody's dead from that nobody you know so anyway um
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and that got aired and then all of a sudden people started calling me from all over the all over the country actually I mean
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Pentagon you name it and every every organization um and then people started calling me
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that it that it had sightings and you know some of them I think are false Flags maybe they're putting somebody up to calling me to get me to run down some
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rabbit hole but some of these people are I mean they're Heroes I mean they've they've uh um I've had people call me
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that are veterans they've seen me on the TV show Ancient Aliens and described very very credible I mean they have
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nothing there's no reason for them to call me or in people that I know even and had very credible sightings and have
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been told by the CIA or some other alphabet agency to keep their mouth shut it's National Security and
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um you know and every night I tell this story but it's true every night I go out and and look at the um
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um stars out in the sky and and my dogs always have to go to the bathroom in the middle of night so I always just look up at the stars and I think wow a light
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from of stars some of that light left left there before the time of Christ and I think you know in God's fast Universe
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I can't imagine that we're in and also can't imagine where the best God could create either and we we probably hope
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God in pretty low low self State low steam if we think we're the best he could do and um you know and the more and more I dig
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into this the more and more I see the cover up and um and I think transparency is a good thing
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is there any evidence or anything that you've been privy to that would make you believe that this was a government cover-up along with working for the
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American government well I don't trust government I've been in government most of my life ma'am and I've never isn't that kind of ironic though
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yeah but people like me don't stick in it it's gonna just just keep white watching The Puppet Masters will still keep
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you know pulling the strings and um yeah you know they marginalize people like me and make fun of me and try to beat me
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and you know and I get the little shots over the bow taken at me over the internet but people like me don't do
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something imagine what else is out there that they cover up and you know I know I think some of it too I get myself in trouble when I start saying this but it
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doesn't matter it's the truth I think some of our members are compromised you know you go on these foreign trips and there's no way in hell these guys need
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to be going on these trips overseas they're not our best you know they're just the one that kisses up to leadership and gets the ass to go on the
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trip but you know you're sitting in some fancy country in the motel somewhere and somebody of the opposite sex or maybe of the same
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sex it doesn't matter um flirts with you and the next thing you know they're in a motel room and they're
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compromised and I think the honey pot the Russians used to use that they call it the Honey pots but I think that's some of that too I
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think that still goes on do you have evidence of that though or is that just your assumption because that's a pretty bold statement saying that you know people are getting
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involved into honeypots we're using women to persuade maybe they're using man I'm not that's what I said in this day and age it doesn't matter I mean
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yeah there's there's been some pretty well documented cases of people that are involved with people from
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foreign countries that are not friendly to us and it's you know and I've talked to members that
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have that have verified that so I mean it doesn't really matter either way but we've got it's a huge issue people are
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concerned about it and it's it's greed it's power it's technology and um and it goes right back to Power
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who's in charge and you know the reverse engineering of some of this foreign material there's a report that's just out there's a hearing not a hearing but
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a symposium there's a fella talking about I haven't got reviewed the whole thing I think I saw it about four o'clock this morning I believe I saw
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part of it do you mean Gary Nolan is that yeah I believe that where he said I had four and I was supposed to get born material and then I was blocked and
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that's you know that's I mean notice I don't have my shot face on because that's just that's just Washington 101 ma'am again I go back to
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the Kennedy assassination why in the hell are they not releasing that other than they're going to embarrass somebody or some organization which I suspect we
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all know what that's about but this is um you know if you have some foreign technology or alien technology as a case
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may be and and you reverse engineer it there's an incredible amount of power and there's money involved in that and um
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you know and I think we've we're just scratching the surface the very very tip of the iceberg on this thing
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and um you know that's why that's why the hearing that they had the open hearing so-called hearing I walked out the Press
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asked me to do what I thought and I said we got hosed you know I was supposed to be able to ask a question at that and I was going to drill them I was going to wear them out
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and I was getting ready what are you going to ask if you mind me asking it doesn't matter I don't even remember now um it was on one of the um I was going
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to ask about a UFO sighting in the um I think about those Tic Tac videos and why they weren't being showed and they
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showed this lame-ass video something somebody took in a cockpit of a jet fighter and they were using their cell phone to film them and the guy
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couldn't even slow the camera down slow the video down so he could see um Adam Schiff always hey I don't agree with him a lot we're
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friends but he um he asked the best question he said what exactly am I looking at because they were pointing at
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a shadow and there was something that was flying by the cockpit it you know whatever mock speed and you know you had those Tic Tac videos not Tick Tock but
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Tic Tac like the candy if you Google that um if you're I'm sure everybody's seen it there was a 60 Minutes video
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that that had that on there and um and the actual pilot one of the pilots I believe was in the audience and he had
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to have fake credentials to get in they weren't even going to let the guy in an American pilot man best in the world and they were not even going to let him
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testify and you know we just got hosed we got hosed completely the people they had they have in charge of this study or
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whatever hell they can't even spell UFO they are awful and it's it's just it's just a cover-up from top to bottom and
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uh and that's why the American public had very little trust in government we continue to do this on everything but this is something that to me is
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you know we can handle it we can handle it I don't it's not gonna offset my religious beliefs or or my thought I
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think in the Bible has has got UFOs in it as well the first chapter of Ezekiel a will within a wheel and a granted
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the translations a little off um it was a King James version of Aramaic or whatever I'm not really sure
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but anyway but I would actually ask you about that because I know that you speak about religion in regards to yourself
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but then also connected to this topic as well do you do you follow something called the Collins Elite have you ever heard of
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that before I have not ma'am yeah so Colin's Elite is like a is a so-called conspiracy theory that said that's within government and a group of people
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that are in power and that allegedly these things could be technically demonic when you hear that then you know when you're championing this
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topic does that make you rethink the concept of UAP because we don't really know what it is right we don't
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know if extraterrestrial we have no idea yeah I'll be perfectly blunt to you man I'm good with Jesus
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and bye bye right now I'm gonna be right there in heaven with him and I'll be with my mom and dad and a lot of folks that I know and I'm not worried about
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all that I don't I'm not worried demon possession is is a reality um I believe in it it's in the Bible
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um they cast out demons and they ran into a herd of pigs and uh you know that was I believe that
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is real and uh I believe we have demon possession today I go into that but that's not what we're here about but I I
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don't think it is I don't think it is demon I don't think it's demonic I think we don't know
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yeah that's what I think that's what I think I think it is it is uh
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another life formed somewhere else I don't know yeah and I I'd like to
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actually go back even just outside of this religion I know we're bumping around a little bit but I want to go back even just to the political conversation about uaps because before
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obviously there's a bipartisan and then we move into a space where it's becoming pretty political do you think that this
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is a Republican's conversation about UFOs and not a Democrat no ma'am I don't I have Democrat friends
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that have confided in me as well that there's um it's out there I get a lot of I get blasted on on the internet a lot by a
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lot of people but they say and I like your like your stance on UFOs and uops so um I just don't allow it to be that I
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think I think it's a the cover-up goes much deeper you know I as long as Republicans and Democrats are fighting blacks and wives Jews
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Christians Muslims what have you the big boys are still going to be making money you know they always seem to be on top
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regardless we're seeing this though as like a very Republican conversation though we're seeing that the Republicans
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publicly and within media are really embracing the UAP topic we've seen it's me it's basically me there's a couple
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well and the interesting part though is Ron DeSantis also took three million dollars from Robert Bigelow which is a
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major UFO supporter an advocate his presidency potentially right yeah I
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mean I know Governor DeSantis um I've spoke with him and uh but I I did not know his connection to UFOs so next time I've
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talked to him I just bring that up but yeah yeah he has a very and I don't know if he does but he did take money and it doesn't mean that it is that because he
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took you know three million for funding for his own campaign from Robert Bigelow who is a a major advocate for UFOs it
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doesn't mean that Ron is but it's interesting to watch we're also seeing that politically you know we look at misinformation campaigns
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and people using misinformation within political writings or political strategy do you think that moving
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forward within you know looking at presidencies or just looking at anything political that people are going to start using the UAP platform UAP topic and
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narrative within their platform and what do you think of that I don't I think they'll use it against people like myself
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I don't see it as as uh in the mainstream as much I think it's the people that know about it know about
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it and the people that want to talk about it publicly do and the others a lot of the conversations I have are very private very private people will call me
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and want to talk off the Record and and show me things and tell me things that are kept off the Record and I try to do
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that because their their privacy is just that and I don't want to put them in the spot so um but yeah I I don't see it
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entering the Republican or Democratic realm I mean I'm a Republican and and most people that I talk to about it are Republicans and that's generally just
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because that's who I'm with in Washington but I there's several Democrats that are involved in it too and then some of them are on the intelligence committee and
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and frankly that kind of bothers me anybody on the intelligence committee dealing with this because they've had a many bites at this apple and to me
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they've haven't done anything with it and they joke about it and so I don't have a lot of I don't have a lot of time for that right now if you ought to put a
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solution then in forward and it was your ability to be able to change things around this topic specifically
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yeah talk is cheap we've got to have a somebody on the inside a whistleblower or somebody come forward with
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information I've talked to pilots who said that they've destroyed evidence which should be film
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or some sort because if they were to bring that back they would be debriefed which would probably be a 12-hour
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interrogation and they would have their their credit and their record blemished because of it regardless of the
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Whistleblower protection I don't buy any of that yeah it is saying that it should protect them right there are some new
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rules within the legislation there is for sure that we're looking at it's not you know it's not airtight sealed but
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they should be protected and so you don't think that they can be protected they should be and it's in the uh ndaa
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National Defense authorization act last when they passed um 20 23 or two I can't remember whatever but they um it's in
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there but still you know the stigma is still there and people are not as forthcoming somebody's going to have to
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walk out somewhere some lab somewhere with undeniable information and they're gonna have to put it out on the internet
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before they commit suicide you know because I think this is that serious I think somebody would that's pretty bold it's
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you know it's great it's the truth ma'am you're talking about billions and billions of dollars of technology I mean
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Congress people making 70 return year after year you know we vote for a missile defense system for Ukraine and
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we wrap the American flag and patriotism around it so we send them our missile defense system and then we have to
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immediately go purchase another missile defense system to replenish our supply and look at people's stock purchases
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prior to that man the system's crooked and um and and you know people just
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uh you know that's why they send people like me to Congress to talk about it and do something about it but we got to have more than me
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you also speak that the tax dollars looking at American tax dollars you know in this in the UAP connected to it how
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do you see American tax dollars connected to it a narrative that should be bipartisan and should have nothing to do with tax money you know how how do
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you roll those two topics into one well in your view right yes ma'am and here's what you're already seeing you're seeing
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some in the Pentagon will come out and say this total this thing's total hoax it's a total joke and you'll see the other side somebody put out something I
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don't know if you saw it said that you know there's a it could possibly be a Mothership and it's releasing these smaller shifts to go
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investigate places like the Earth and otherwise so these are high-ranking officials saying this what are they doing they're after tax dollars is all
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they're doing they've got the information they've got the files they why do they send them redacted they've
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got photographs they've got everything release it release it that's all they got to do that's all they got to do but you know what they're going to do
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they're going to wrap a price tag around this and they're going to have this institute's going to be study it this branch of the government or the space
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force whatever they're going to need an additional billion dollars to study this they don't need to study it ma'am they need to release their files let us
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decide let the American public decide but that's government the Pentagon has not passed out since I've been in Congress I don't think it's not passed
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an audit they lose over a billion dollars every a billion dollars with a B they lose it and you know what nobody
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questions it nobody questions it it is there's more people that work in the Department of Defense more pencil pushers that are in our United States
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Navy man that tells you the machine the swamp whatever you want to call it it's real and that's that's what they're
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after just the dollars so then what's your thoughts on people like Lou Elizondo and Christopher Mellon that have come forward that were working in a
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system and working for Intel and intelligence that you obviously don't agree with but they've come forward now and have really CIS information you know
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what's your views on them are they doing this as an inside job is that your thoughts on this or is it potentially that they're an advocate for this space
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because when I hear somebody working for government that isn't always just Pro doesn't mean you always have to be in everything but it's interesting when you
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bash Intel but then you have all these people that have come forward that are part of Intel to help push the narrative hopefully in a positive light in a
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positive way from what we've seen at least since 2017. well Lewis is a friend of mine we text and we communicate I
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communicate with them this morning as a matter of fact um you know I believe they're legitimate people in this but I believe there's
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some in there that are just pushing the disinformation and some of them ma'am are pushing because you know with artificial intelligence now I believe
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some people are pushing what they believe is truthful information but it is false for oh for sure missing 100 I would agree with you and that goes into
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the funding mechanism the um the Crooked nature of what's going of the funding of but that also could be foreign adversaries it doesn't
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have to be you know the American government right it could be majority of it is foreign adversaries we see a lot of disinformation and misinformation
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coming from other countries not from yeah go one step further what I'm afraid of
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too is that if we when we when we figure out something off this reverse engineering which is kind of a cool term
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to use um we figured something out on that and then we um and then our adversaries get
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it just like it um um you know when we when we develop the atomic bomb in true President Roosevelt
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had passed away President Truman you know mentions to Stalin that we have the bomb and he already knew it because
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Oppenheimer some of oppenheimer's people are Oppenheimer linked it to them and so
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um I really I'm really afraid of that as well that because of our greed and stupidity and short-sightedness I mean
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yeah look I've looked at the documents of Treasury Hunter Biden getting 10 million dollars from the Communist
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Chinese and his family for what I mean give me a break this town is crooked it is broken it's a
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trash can everybody wants to pick and choose the trash out of it they need to turn the trash can upside down with a garden hose and clean it all out it's
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it's top to bottom man it is dirty and it stinks it's been that way for a long time and then what I'm saying isn't
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anything new it's just most those guys and gals either they don't know they're naive or they don't have the guts to
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talk about it I'm gonna go back to to when you were talking about footage in leaks are you
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Pro leaks fun video leaks of UAP footage or anything else that might be whistleblower related and leaking
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footage rather than going through the system and going through Arrow if you had to decide which way that would go would you still believe that the citizens should still be releasing
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information or should we still be sending this to Arrow I'm not asking people to create do Espionage I'm just telling you the only
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way for that stuff to get out is that that's the way it's going to have to get out because it's not going to get out through government but isn't that a
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national security threat though that's what they wrap it in why is it a national security threat to know that we have a
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or an entity in our presence in our in our I mean it's not that's what they wrap it in they always say this is not
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that's what they tell our veterans when they're sitting on a on a ship in the middle in in the late 50s and they see
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an aircraft something over the top of them over two city blocks wide a circular craft that hovers over them
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without making any noise without any kind of heat transfer or anything and it takes off and they get back to port and
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they're visited by probably CIA maybe NSA and they're told this is National Security never talk
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about this again that's what they use and it's not National Security it's protecting it's protecting the you know
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the cash flow of somebody and it's and it's wrong and it's evil and that's the bottom line it's greed and it's power and it has nothing to do with
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sovereignty or America's keeping America on top because these Jugheads would sell us out in a heartbeat if they thought
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they could and get by with it I know you speak of like the ET like in my thoughts and it doesn't mean always mine always
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matter but you know we don't know what's going on we have no idea right we're trying to figure it out but this Narrative of extraterrestrial is so
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strong within within what how you Advocate UFOs are you worried though that that in
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itself is misinformation as well that leading people you know multiple amounts of people into the future or or now
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currently leading them down a road that might not actually be accurate like do you ever consider that outside of just saying you know this is extraterrestrial
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right yeah every phone call is it a concern yeah does that ever is that ever concern for you every phone call I get every
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message I get every time and walking in Washington and somebody says Hey I want to talk to you about
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this issue every time I'm on an airplane and somebody bends my ear um and says hey something about it I'm
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worried am I being taped am I being recorded is this false is this a bad actor I'm always worried about all
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those things and that's why I'm very cautious when somebody calls me on the phone or wants to talk
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to me about it or shows me a picture or wants me to come see something they have and some Far remote place you know I'm
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always worried about that every time every time and I'm worried about my you know and frankly I've been told I need to buy some of these folks I need to be
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worried about my safety you know but I I don't know why I mean I'm you know I'm one of
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453 or something so what do you mean by that 453. Congressman Congressman
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435 yeah I'm sorry I forget it's okay that's my number on the baseball team is 4 35 because I always kill
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435th most powerful member of Congress so uh you know and I get it I guess what are people like when you're when you're
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talking to people on in Congress outside of any political walls and you're with each other what are the conversations
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that you're having with them about UFOs like what are the specifics and what are they asking you there's probably a half
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a dove dozen of us that actually talk specifically about it most of it is just try to humiliate me and make fun of me
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and you know and I get that too I I get it you know it's going to be somebody's going to use it against me and I'm you
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know I'm gonna say we got you know medicare's gonna run out of money Merchant's talking about little green man but you
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know we've had 13 documented near misses of our military aircraft you're talking about an
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aircraft worth 50 million dollars or more and we've had a near miss and and we have something in our airspace our
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military airspace that we do not control and to me ma'am that is very important and that's very chilling that that no
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one seems to care or maybe they do care and they're just told not to care publicly I think people care I also think people
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concern that it's foreign adversaries you know why why Champion money it cannot be it cannot be a foreign
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adversary but how why not well if it was China they would own us if it was Russia I mean you think Putin would not own
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Ukraine right now he would take back the whole former Russian Empire no ma'am it is not poon's a lot of talk though well
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it's compared to what he has in technology and we've seen that throughout this year it's like it's everybody people said their Nazis had
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UFOs if the Nazis had UFOs ma'am there wasn't many Jewish people left on this Earth and we'd all be Goose stepping right now because they didn't
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have it and they did not have it and and uh if they did if they had that technology they would have they would
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have won the war in their their that ableness would would control this world which it does not
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and we don't I here's what I think I think it's like if I went back in the 1800s and took a
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bunch of cowboys Harley-Davidson motorcycle gassed up I think they would look at it
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and you know eventually one of them might figure out how to get it started um they wouldn't know how to change the spark plugs they wouldn't know about
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they wouldn't know how to refine gasoline they wouldn't understand the oil the crank case they wouldn't understand how to shift gears and you
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know they'd be looking and toying with that thing for a hundred years I think that's where we're at with these craft that we that have been
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that have been um found I think that's that's completely where we're at and we don't understand it the technology is so
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Advanced you look at those Tic Tac videos and those Pilots talking about it and the G's those things do literally
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the human body would be a ketchup package there has to be some sort of atmosphere that we do not understand within those
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uh and I I have had people bring me those videos and explain to me some some
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very prominent people in the world in an off the record conversations away from the capitol away from everything
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they've come to my house and I've viewed those those videos there's no heat signature there is no
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um there's nothing there is no nothing we have on this Earth is capable of that so if if if the government is if
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you're not believing in the government to be able to do its job and for example NASA coming out with its its report soon hopefully the next couple weeks
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if the government and government agencies and not-for-profits attached to them um and private contractors not attached
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to them doing the research and doing and looking into the science behind this and you don't agree with those attached
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identities then who should be doing this then who should be doing the research when it comes to the science because we've seen
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that in the past I think at this point that it's it's in some sort of corporate
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control I think that has been handed off and it was so compartmentalized back then that most
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people in government don't have the direct knowledge I believe there are files existing somewhere photos possibly
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um crafts somewhere else and I I think it's so small and the amount of people that
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actually are in no or compartmentalized I mean you know they tell the president no Obama I've stolen interview with Obama Obama just a while back and he
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said you know I want to know about where we've got the little green man and so they went out and did research and came back and said we don't they went
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and did research ma'am and that was his words you know not no we don't have it no they went and did research and found
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out that we did not have it so do you believe that you you trust and you know these people don't don't
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answer the presidents they don't but it's going to take somebody of a president's a strong president not like the one we currently have now
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somebody with the willpower to say no I don't believe you I'm cutting off your money bring me this information
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I wonder if we're ever going to see that I don't know the fear that I have mainly in this conversation currently right now
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is because of the divide that we see civilly and in many countries too not just in North just not throughout North
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America but this conversation becoming part of extremism do you see that sure I mean the
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distrusting government but and that does lead to a does lead to extremist ideals
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even though the UAP conversation should technically still be bipartisan it should always be bipartisan it shouldn't
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be political or extreme well when you're saying distrust within government in distrust doesn't that create and feed
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into The Narrative of conspiracy theory and Q Anon and the rest of extremism I don't know what Q Anon is I'm not and
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I'm as conservative as they come here in East Tennessee and I have not I don't look at any websites that tell me how to think and some conspiracy every time
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somebody's snake call me a q Anon or something you know and it's water off a duck's back I don't buy that that's an extreme that's a very
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limited that's an internet primarily you don't hear that down at the barber shop I'm over at ball market number three on Western Avenue and nobody brings a q
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Anon I think that's something that they label conservatives with to keep them contained or shut up and that's like the
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week label some people in the left wing the same way I don't you know I just don't get too hung up on all that stuff
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so when we're looking then you know within the bell and within like Congress and legislation right now it's talking about whistleblowers coming forward
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and hopefully they will be protected and there's some vague language around reporting and and whatnot but if you had
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to choose from what you know of this Narrative of people to come forward within government or to speak to government and to testify to government
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people like Bob Lazar for example you know who would you choose within this topic that should be testifying and who
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do you believe is the most authentic and correct when it comes to the theory of UAP I think you'd better get the pilots you
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gotta get to Pilots first and get them out in front of everybody let the Press talk to them that have seen this that are on the
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tapes one of them is the most is our one of our best pilots in the world I know a guy who knows him
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who is one of the best there is and um and he's the one in the he's one of the main ones that that saw it and and and
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talked about it and um and I was the the military said it didn't exist
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and then it was leaked and then they came back and said those are fake and then they came back later
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and said No in fact those are real I mean that's that's the government you're dealing with and so
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you know you take it for what it is but that's that's it's out there there's enough information out there and
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um but I don't trust the governor to bring anything forward of any substance it's all going to be just like those bogus hearings they had in the you know it's
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going to be doctored and they're not going to bring forth the real stuff they're going to bring across something that's very questionable that nobody even
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it was just beyond me those hearings that hearing that they had and then they had one over in the Senate and everybody was all jammed up about it it didn't do
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anything and you know as soon as you come out with something it'll be denounced or will be a deflection or something else
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and then and that's you get that bite at the Apple and that's it it'll be gone do when you're using this narrative like
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within it's it's part of your identity right now within media was that strategic for you to do that and to use
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that no ma'am I don't it wasn't strategic I was just asked about it and I said the truth and um a lot of people
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are upset about it and a lot of people are glad about it I I didn't set out to be uh somebody who was
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the spokesperson for the UFO community that wasn't I just think we need to know the truth and we need transparency and
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we're not getting it and we won't get it I don't think so my last question then to you is you know what is this what is the UFO
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narrative look like in Congress in the future to you I think we have a very
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slim shot at getting some information I think the best we can do is to keep the the talk alive with real
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scientific data and keep it out of the hands of the folks that are just trying to kill
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it and that that's that's that's my goal is to keep the discussion alive and transparency I don't think anybody
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should be afraid of transparency or the truth well I guess we'll see in the next
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coming months and years to come where this narrative goes thank you so much congressman and as I say to all my guests thank you so much for being
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rebelliously curious with me today thank you