0:01 1 second Well, welcome in here to UAP. Happy to bring in today. Uh someone that I've been talking about on the show, someone that uh I've been looking forward to 0:09 9 seconds speaking to with for a while, and that is Laura Eisenhower. Laura, thanks so much for coming on here to UAP. Been looking forward to this. So, I appreciate you making time to come on the show today. 0:19 19 seconds Well, thank you for inviting me. Good to be here. 0:21 21 seconds Yeah, absolutely. So, I know you know, listen, I'm not going to beat around the bush. Obviously, when people see you at 0:29 29 seconds uh different conferences or webinars or they see you on social media, they know, of course, that you are the great-granddaughter of President 0:36 36 seconds Eisenhower. So, when they think about that and they think about all the things that have gone on since his presidency, 0:44 44 seconds um I'd like to start there if that's okay. 0:46 46 seconds Sure. Um, and one of the things that I really kind of dug into when I started 0:53 53 seconds this this show five years ago now, one of the things that really uh intrigued me at the start of it was the story of 1:00 1 minute President Eisenhower and the so-called meeting with the Grays. I found that very fascinating. I've done some work digging into that over time and speaking 1:08 1 minute, 8 seconds to different authors and filmmakers who have done work on it. But now I get to ask you about it. So, when it comes to that story, there's so much lore. 1:16 1 minute, 16 seconds There's so much legend to it. What can you tell us about that story and the facts that you know from your family? 1:25 1 minute, 25 seconds Well, I don't really know facts from my family. It wasn't something we really talked about. I think everything had to skip a generation. These uh kind of topics were very hush hush back then. 1:37 1 minute, 37 seconds And it wasn't that Eisenhower didn't want to disclose it. It was because of the threats. um the hidden covert kind 1:46 1 minute, 46 seconds of takeover of the United States. Uh people hear about Roswell, Project Paperclip, Admiral Bird's expedition in 1:54 1 minute, 54 seconds 1947, big year, 1947, an expedition that you know pretty much failed. And uh but we don't really hear about what happened 2:02 2 minutes, 2 seconds in 1952 under Truman or the fact that in 1947 there was some sort of agreement uh or treaty that Truman might have signed. 2:10 2 minutes, 10 seconds Uh, Captain Mark Richards talks about this. Um, Carrie Cassidy has written some books uh about these conversations 2:18 2 minutes, 18 seconds with him. He also shares about him wanting to take out the grays and Draco at the Doulce underground base in 1954, 2:27 2 minutes, 27 seconds the same year that he's blamed for signing treaties. Dan Cooper, also a very credible person who talks about 2:34 2 minutes, 34 seconds Eisenhower ordering an invasion on Dulce underground base. So when it comes to this treaty, you know, I had an open 2:42 2 minutes, 42 seconds mind to it for a long time. There are some sound bites that have been circulating saying that I validate the story. I think they definitely uh cut it 2:50 2 minutes, 50 seconds up and made it look like that because I've never flat out said I agree or I think it happened. I wasn't there. If I were to have said anything, I would 2:58 2 minutes, 58 seconds think that I would say allegedly. But uh I I guess yeah uh years ago when I first became a public person, I was bringing this topic to light and I was 3:06 3 minutes, 6 seconds open-minded to the fact that that might have taken place. Well, over the course of the last six to 10 years, I've been shown a very very different um history. 3:16 3 minutes, 16 seconds And I don't just go by what I hear, I investigate, right? Um and I look into the people that are making the claims. 3:24 3 minutes, 24 seconds Uh and and one of the things that really stands out is you know there there have been a lot of attempts to get information freedom of information act 3:32 3 minutes, 32 seconds uh people digging really deep into you know whistleblower testimony and it's come up that a lot of what was actually 3:39 3 minutes, 39 seconds shared there's no credible witnesses um Gerald Light did not say that there was a treaty that was signed and when you look at all the different uh individuals 3:48 3 minutes, 48 seconds that have spoken about it and you actually ask the questions well where did they really get it were they um is there a document? Uh what sort of uh 3:57 3 minutes, 57 seconds factual information do they have to back it up? There really isn't any. But I think we know in this field is very very hard to get any factual information. Um 4:06 4 minutes, 6 seconds but let me just share really quick. Dan Cooper, who I've been talking to recently, is a physicist. He knows, you 4:15 4 minutes, 15 seconds know, admirals and generals and he uh served in a 20 back. So a lot of his commanding officers, Nazi commanding 4:23 4 minutes, 23 seconds officers gave him this information or they were bragging about it. Um he's really got firsthand information and uh 4:30 4 minutes, 30 seconds he's a physicist on the level of um you know discovering the sixth to eighth force you know Tesla type technology 4:38 4 minutes, 38 seconds and he was imprisoned by the three-letter organizations for 18 years against his will. So, you know, these 4:45 4 minutes, 45 seconds kind of um credible people uh I I've been looking into William Cooper who was one of the main 4:53 4 minutes, 53 seconds sources of information for people who wrote Beyond a Pale horse. He even admitted later on that what he was given 5:01 5 minutes, 1 second was disinformation that he never believed that documents that were going to be placed in front of him would be 5:08 5 minutes, 8 seconds potentially um fabricated. And uh later on he actually admitted that he had been 5:15 5 minutes, 15 seconds lied to and he had been used. And he started to expose the fact that this technology was not what we thought. It was connected to the Nazis in Germany. 5:25 5 minutes, 25 seconds And uh when he really began to expose that he felt that he was used and lied to, he got killed pretty soon after. I'm not saying it's directly related. I 5:33 5 minutes, 33 seconds don't want to make those assumptions, but he even came clean. So, I see a lot of people quoting William Cooper and the 5:40 5 minutes, 40 seconds rest of the information that a person um is providing or or falling back on for 5:48 5 minutes, 48 seconds information about this is is really not very credible. So, this whole dentist appointment thing, right? First of all, any uh story you hear about this, you're never going to see a consistency. 5:59 5 minutes, 59 seconds Everybody is sharing something different. 1954, first the Nordics. Some people say that particular date in February 1954, I think the 20th of 6:07 6 minutes, 7 seconds February, was the the meeting with the Grace. So, it's not consistent. The amount of time he was gone is not consistent. The fact that he did have an 6:15 6 minutes, 15 seconds ongoing dental issue um is something to think about. And also, how long it takes to travel from the ranch he was at all 6:22 6 minutes, 22 seconds the way to Edwards Air Force Base. Um I think that one was Edward's Air Force Base. Anyway, the amount of time that he was not accounted for uh is not a very 6:32 6 minutes, 32 seconds long amount of time and it takes a lot to go all the way somewhere. There would be some sort of trail of maybe a Secret Service driver. There would be some kind 6:40 6 minutes, 40 seconds of deathbed confessions, you would think. And instead we find people changing the story or sharing more in 6:47 6 minutes, 47 seconds their deathbed confessions like uh anonymous that Richard Dolan interviewed said that Eisenhower was furious and 6:54 6 minutes, 54 seconds wanted to invade Area 51 but he was shut down because you know basically it's like a government unto itself. Um so the 7:02 7 minutes, 2 seconds Doulce uh invasion he ordered in 1954 later on threatening to invade Area 51 his relationship with Val Thor. this 7:10 7 minutes, 10 seconds doesn't sound like a guy that would have signed treaties and if he did he definitely wasn't aligning um with them 7:18 7 minutes, 18 seconds and and after 1952 we supposedly surrendered to the interplanetary corporate conglomerate Nazi Draco alliance so when we think of projects 7:26 7 minutes, 26 seconds like Montalk Philadelphia experiment um uh that happened you know previous 7:33 7 minutes, 33 seconds and just the chain of events that led to this sort of takeover and MK Ultra social engineering indoctrin ation, chemtrails, geoengineering. It's pretty 7:42 7 minutes, 42 seconds obvious that we didn't really win the war. And I really feel that a lot is a front and false narratives that uh have 7:49 7 minutes, 49 seconds been engineered in order to hide what is actually truly happening. So, I'll kind of leave that. Yeah. 7:56 7 minutes, 56 seconds Yeah. Wow. Um, so obviously there's a lot to pick up on there. I guess first off, uh, you you mentioned like four or five things that I want to follow up on 8:04 8 minutes, 4 seconds because there were things that I had in my mind that you went ahead and mentioned. Um, first off being just just so everyone's clear, you're saying that 8:12 8 minutes, 12 seconds there is in your knowledge there's no definitive proof that you can say just to start off on the basic there that you can say that the meeting itself took 8:21 8 minutes, 21 seconds place between President Eisenhower and the Grays or the Nordics. Can we say that it did or can we say that it maybe did or probably didn't? I mean, what would just on that basic knowledge? 8:32 8 minutes, 32 seconds Well, everybody's kind of coming at uh it from this angle. guilty before being innocent, right? Instead of innocent uh until proven guilty. There is no proof. 8:43 8 minutes, 43 seconds You know, you can't just ha I mean, we could spin any story, write any kind of letter, have it passed down a couple generations, and then all all of a 8:51 8 minutes, 51 seconds sudden say, hey, this is fact, this happened. You know, a lot of people picked up some stories and William Cooper was saying, these were planted. 8:59 8 minutes, 59 seconds This is disinformation. And when we look at the history of a lot of uh what took place in the 1950s and MJ12 and these three-letter organizations and the fact 9:07 9 minutes, 7 seconds that the Roswell crash happened, they knew that people were getting abducted, they knew that you we were going to be talking about it. They're not really 9:14 9 minutes, 14 seconds able to cover this up, but what they wanted to do was control it and uh manage it so that when disclosure happens, we're pointing the finger over 9:21 9 minutes, 21 seconds here or over there. And I really feel for people that y'all share these stories and believe them um because we just want to get to the truth and it 9:30 9 minutes, 30 seconds seems like wow okay that explains it that might explain something but in actual fact we've been dealing with ETSs 9:36 9 minutes, 36 seconds and abductions for thousands of years uh to varying degrees and in 1929 was when the original Griata treaty supposedly 9:44 9 minutes, 44 seconds happened. So basically um Val Thor supposedly, this is from Dan Cooper and I gave a little bit of bio about him, 9:51 9 minutes, 51 seconds not related to William Cooper who wrote Beyond a Pale Horse. Uh he talks about um when we reach Warp One and uh in 1929 10:01 10 minutes, 1 second uh we bought bases on the moon and Mars, there were already deals being made and humans being taken in exchange. uh in 10:08 10 minutes, 8 seconds the 1930s and 40s uh Winston Churchill, Crowley, Alistister Crowley and Hitler um supposedly uh formed agreements and 10:18 10 minutes, 18 seconds um you know there's a strong connection between the Nazis and the Draco. So the Second World War wasn't really one. Yes, 10:26 10 minutes, 26 seconds Germany surrendered, but uh the Nazi uh Draco aspect of it, interplanetary corporate conglomerate because the 10:35 10 minutes, 35 seconds basically the Nazis took over all the corporations um and basically not just paperclip but 1952 surrender 10:43 10 minutes, 43 seconds instrument basically began to infiltrate all the um institutions of of power and 10:50 10 minutes, 50 seconds influence educational um medical, Hollywood, you name it. So, it's kind of disturbing to think we didn't win the 10:59 10 minutes, 59 seconds war. Um, and and it's not something, you know, we need to fear. We just need to understand that the war has become a war on consciousness and that they've been 11:06 11 minutes, 6 seconds trying to steer the disclosure narratives uh to keep using that as a way to cause us to consent to a false solution. 11:15 11 minutes, 15 seconds So, something happened perhaps in 1954. 11:18 11 minutes, 18 seconds Um, but the anomalies that were reported around that time were pretty minimal. It had nothing to do with the craft showing up. It had to do with pre-existing 11:27 11 minutes, 27 seconds um crafts that were already there. What has been well documented is the 1952 flyover over over the capital, right? 11:35 11 minutes, 35 seconds Um the ships hovered for like six hours. 11:37 11 minutes, 37 seconds Six hours is a lot longer than Eisenhower running to a base, signing a treaty with grace, and coming back and going to church the next morning. And he's a very humble man. And you know, he 11:47 11 minutes, 47 seconds was raised by Menanite farmers, or at least that's the descendants, Anabaptists, pacifists, very um uh not 11:54 11 minutes, 54 seconds wealthy at all. Uh living close to the earth, Bible, scripture, very strict. Um not Illuminati or elitist kind of 12:02 12 minutes, 2 seconds bloodline or family as much as people might think that. You know, he's not the kind of guy that's just going to go off to some base and sign something and not come back a little frazzled, probably 12:11 12 minutes, 11 seconds maybe not going to church and recovering from whatever the heck that was. 12:14 12 minutes, 14 seconds You know, he was privy to things. I think he really knew about um the Roswell uh incident and the alien um 12:25 12 minutes, 25 seconds presence, but but I feel that he was advised by Valfor. This is what I've been told, you know, by people like Dan uh Dan Cooper and a lot of insiders. Um 12:34 12 minutes, 34 seconds and when I say a lot, I'm talking about three or four. So, I don't want to like say a lot and have people think I'm talking about 10 or 12. So, sure. To me, three is a lot for this 12:43 12 minutes, 43 seconds topic. but that Bthor um helped advise him, helped uh warn us and and helped us to 12:51 12 minutes, 51 seconds understand that the first contact was in 1929 with the Nordics. They have a base called New Berlin or they helped um create this underground city in 12:59 12 minutes, 59 seconds Antarctica and uh you know there's just a lot of history there. So Valthor helped Eisenhower set up countermeasures supposedly like the White Hats, the 13:07 13 minutes, 7 seconds Earth Alliance, and Iikes Force and helped him to appeal to the Guardians to put an outer barrier around the planet. 13:14 13 minutes, 14 seconds Um, so all of this is just something to think about. And I guess what I'm trying to say is there's a lot more evidence about what happened in 1952, what 13:23 13 minutes, 23 seconds happened in 1947, and events that have taken place, you know, since. 13:31 13 minutes, 31 seconds um have been a lot harder to unwrap without tracing it back to those events. 13:39 13 minutes, 39 seconds Or else we just think something just began in 1954 when obviously these events shaped things in our US 13:46 13 minutes, 46 seconds government and in our country before 1954. So Eisenhower inherited something he was trying to counteract and actually trying to stop. And they put the blame 13:55 13 minutes, 55 seconds on him because they hate him because he tried to stop them also in the Second World War. He tried to stop them. Wow. 14:01 14 minutes, 1 second No, it's it's it's incredible. I mean, to put in the pieces, right? Because it does feel like to me whenever that story is told or investigated that there's 14:09 14 minutes, 9 seconds probably more to it, right? It's not just as pretty much what you said. Um, you know, it wouldn't be just as simple as, hey, let's have this meeting and 14:17 14 minutes, 17 seconds then possibly sign something or just, you know, kind of try to understand who each other are and even if there was a meeting, whether or not something was 14:25 14 minutes, 25 seconds signed at the meeting. Um but then also that understanding of okay this actually 14:32 14 minutes, 32 seconds went a lot deeper than some type of possible meeting. This went into him having a knowledge that something was going on that there's this you know 14:40 14 minutes, 40 seconds these other life forms here and that there was some type of nefarious uh agenda as they teamed up with with the Nazis and he was trying to to counteract that. 14:51 14 minutes, 51 seconds That's something that a lot of people don't talk about. I know and it's very frustrating and you know a lot of these other videos go viral and it's okay you 14:58 14 minutes, 58 seconds know if people are talking about it um to ponder the possibility but when they state it as fact uh it's it's there's no 15:07 15 minutes, 7 seconds real evidence. You can't state something as fact. It's like saying I don't know where you were for the last couple hours. There are a bunch of murders um about three hours away. You must have 15:16 15 minutes, 16 seconds done it because we don't know where you were. You know where's the evidence where there's got to be something. and they're like, "Oh, no. They they don't leave any evidence. They cover all this 15:24 15 minutes, 24 seconds up, but yet they won't believe other stories and they'll say, "Well, where's your evidence?" Right? So, it's it's very fractured and it's very much a mess when I look at it because there's double 15:33 15 minutes, 33 seconds standards here. They'll use Grock for something and I use it and I'll say, "Well, look what Grock says." They're like, "Well, Grock's not reliable." But then I see the same people posting 15:40 15 minutes, 40 seconds things from Grock as fact. And u you know, people want to believe what they want to believe because it's so much to invest in something and then all of a sudden see a different reality. And I've had to do that. We all have to do that. 15:52 15 minutes, 52 seconds And it's not about, you know, I'm not trying to fix anybody to anything. I think all of this needs to be put out on the table and then we work together to 15:59 15 minutes, 59 seconds try and figure out what's going on. Not to point blame as much as figuring out how to navigate the rest of this because 16:05 16 minutes, 5 seconds a lot of individuals um back in that era were being threatened. Forestsaw was thrown out of the window. I mean, people were you you couldn't disclose this sort 16:14 16 minutes, 14 seconds of stuff. And a lot of whistleblowers were not going to be given the top top secret. we're dealing with compartmentalism and you you'll know on 16:21 16 minutes, 21 seconds a need to- know basis and and they knew that some people were going to be blowing the whistle. They're not going to give them the biggest secrets. 16:26 16 minutes, 26 seconds They're not going to tell them what they're engineering. They're not going to just say that to their employees or people that they've recruited. They keep 16:33 16 minutes, 33 seconds that, you know, way way up there in the compartments. So, um you know, Dan Cooper never signed an NDA. He doesn't 16:40 16 minutes, 40 seconds have immunities. um you know he's had to skirt death many times but this is something he said that Eisenhower set up which is called Iikes force and the 16:48 16 minutes, 48 seconds reason he wanted to um you know have a voice about it and actually I more talked him into having a voice about it he's not looking for you 16:57 16 minutes, 57 seconds know um he was told by the Guardians to study Eisenhower and that administration and everything about it and um and to 17:05 17 minutes, 5 seconds connect it with the uh resources and the people that he knew to begin to connect these dots and then he said that he was saved by IKES Force. And basically I 17:13 17 minutes, 13 seconds Force, which Eisenhower set up, are vigilantes. They don't work together as a group because it's more dangerous to be shut down as a group. Um the 17:22 17 minutes, 22 seconds vigilantes work with temporal management to correct timelines. So if somebody like Dan's going to be taken out, they will um have somebody from IEF Force 17:30 17 minutes, 30 seconds prevent that from happening. He said that I Forest is constantly trying to keep me alive and um and a lot of others. Doesn't mean they're always successful. We know there's a lot of 17:39 17 minutes, 39 seconds casualties, but the whole idea of Iikes Force was where they're trying to keep the truth from coming out and they keep 17:45 17 minutes, 45 seconds trying to silence individuals or um threaten their life or even smear them. 17:51 17 minutes, 51 seconds Um this group is trying to mitigate that and same with the White Hats. And he said Dan Cooper said that Eisenhower set 17:58 17 minutes, 58 seconds up the White Hats also. So, you know, he's being blamed, yet he's actually the person that's counteracting. And it 18:06 18 minutes, 6 seconds doesn't make any sense with the chronology that that particular time in our history would be the starting point of abductions. There were abductions 18:13 18 minutes, 13 seconds reported in 1947. Um, you know, and my lab started to become a thing after 1952, 1953. military abductions, reverse 18:23 18 minutes, 23 seconds engineer uh crafts, um black helicopters being the ones that were abducting, but 18:30 18 minutes, 30 seconds creating a a screen kind of memory or event where it looked like it was actually um aliens and um real, you 18:38 18 minutes, 38 seconds know, aliens piloting UFOs. It's not to say that that doesn't happen, but the thing is with Deep State is they want to create an imitation version in order to 18:46 18 minutes, 46 seconds overlay on top of what's already happening. So, it's not about throwing the baby out with the bathwater. It's about understanding how difficult it is 18:54 18 minutes, 54 seconds to discern, okay, is that an actual legit event or was that um engineered? Is that military? Same with the weather. 19:01 19 minutes, 1 second Was that a real hurricane or was that HARP geoengineering? 19:05 19 minutes, 5 seconds More uh most of the time there's something that is organically happening that they want to manage and they end up 19:11 19 minutes, 11 seconds intervening um themselves into, you know, the situation. But they do recruit a lot of talented and gifted people um 19:20 19 minutes, 20 seconds into their myab sort of programs. And then even Max Spears talked about, you know, a lot of what people think um are 19:30 19 minutes, 30 seconds uh experiences on other planets are actually virtual realities, but that could also be the training ground before they actually go off planet. So it's just like we've been given the biggest 19:38 19 minutes, 38 seconds cluster of insanity to try and sort out and sift through as humans, but um I think all of it matters. We have to lay 19:46 19 minutes, 46 seconds it all out on the table, but we have to watch out before we state something as historical fact because it really starts to become historical defamation on 19:53 19 minutes, 53 seconds Eisenhower who is the last person on earth that would have signed us over. 19:57 19 minutes, 57 seconds And if he did have anything to do with anything, it might have been for diplomacy. It might have been because another person who is an insider 20:05 20 minutes, 5 seconds background very profound kind of uh credentials said that the treaty was originated in 1947 and it got out of 20:14 20 minutes, 14 seconds control and Eisenhower wanted to make sure they didn't breach the agreement which kind of makes sense but from what Dan Cooper is saying is that greater 20:22 20 minutes, 22 seconds actually originated in 1929. Other whistleblowers said that it gets renewed every 10 years. So, if there was another renewal happening in 1954, 20:31 20 minutes, 31 seconds um it's been said that it wasn't Eisenhower. That's it was MJ12. Um they wanted to use him as a cover and that's when he got furious. He wanted to invade 20:40 20 minutes, 40 seconds Area 51 and um because he they weren't reporting to him. After 1952, they signed it into law that MJ12 didn't have to report to the president anymore. 20:50 20 minutes, 50 seconds Originally, MJ12 did. They became their own sort of uh they had their hands on the alien technology and they were 20:58 20 minutes, 58 seconds operating outside of presidential oversight. 21:02 21 minutes, 2 seconds Wow. It's No, it is it's a lot to take in. Um it's a lot to try and express. So I do my best. 21:09 21 minutes, 9 seconds Yeah. No, no, I'd appreciate it because like I said, a lot to touch on, a lot to follow up on. I do want to get to Valley and Thor uh as well because I've always 21:17 21 minutes, 17 seconds found that subject to be extremely fascinating and uh you know the history with President Eisenhower. I've always heard it in aspects of of Nixon or or 21:26 21 minutes, 26 seconds Truman. Um how well I guess I'll just ask it right now. So how does uh President Eisenhower's history fit in 21:33 21 minutes, 33 seconds with Vali and Thor? Because you always hear about how he was kind of like you know kept in the Pentagon. They didn't let him do much. He offered his help but 21:41 21 minutes, 41 seconds they kept denying his help. So I mean were they able to according to your knowledge work closely and get things done together? 21:48 21 minutes, 48 seconds Oh yeah definitely. I don't hear about valor much with Truman is Nixon Eisenhower because there you know Nixon being the vice president of Eisenhower 21:57 21 minutes, 57 seconds um there might have been some kind of Truman connection but supposedly yeah Val's been around for a while and based on Dan's testimony and what he heard and 22:06 22 minutes, 6 seconds overheard sharing things that just make a lot more sense. So I share it just for people to discern and have an open mind. 22:12 22 minutes, 12 seconds Anyway, because the Griata treaty 1954 scenario doesn't make any sense and the 1954 22:19 22 minutes, 19 seconds first contact would have been connected to the Dennis appointment. That's usually, I think, the one that people mostly steer, right? 22:26 22 minutes, 26 seconds Um, he says that the Nordics, that that's all BS. The Nordics didn't come in and try and have us get rid of nuclear weapons in exchange for helping us. That sounds a lot more like Balor. 22:37 22 minutes, 37 seconds He said that the Nordics and the Draco signed a Muhammad Accord agreement. It's called the Muhammad Accord. And basically the Nordics would not be 22:45 22 minutes, 45 seconds intervening at all trying to help us. Um doesn't mean that there aren't rogue elements. It doesn't mean that there aren't factions of the Galactic 22:52 22 minutes, 52 seconds Federation that have breached that or um somehow those agreements might have been changed. There's a lot um to speculate 23:00 23 minutes on. I don't think we experience reality all in the same way anyway. We're multi-dimensional beings. We experience reality and dimensions and timelines you 23:08 23 minutes, 8 seconds know differently but we are getting to the core truth you know um as a collective I feel so Valor if he did 23:15 23 minutes, 15 seconds come in 1952 Dan says he warned about the Nordics and the grays that the Nordics came in 1929 he explained their 23:22 23 minutes, 22 seconds alliance uh with the Nazis how that kind of shifted and um it solely more was 23:30 23 minutes, 30 seconds about just the alliance with the Draco and the Nordics Um yeah, we're 23:38 23 minutes, 38 seconds um communicating in various ways perhaps, but not in this first contact scenario that is described 23:46 23 minutes, 46 seconds that is talked about warning about the grays also, you know, and then signing with the grays. So if he warned about the Nordics and the Grays and they were 23:54 23 minutes, 54 seconds all about peace and had a lot of the same intention that we hear the Nordics were holding, then maybe people are 24:01 24 minutes, 1 second confusing the landing of Val around that time with the first contact with the Nordics. But when Eisenhower stepped into office because he inherited all 24:09 24 minutes, 9 seconds this and because there were a lot of restrictions based in this unconditional surrender instrument in 1952 that basically um signed us over to this sort 24:18 24 minutes, 18 seconds of shadow government being in charge uh with um limited capacity except for what they told you to do. That's why 24:26 24 minutes, 26 seconds presidents feel like puppets because they're answering to this other sort of infrastructure that's been growing um of 24:33 24 minutes, 33 seconds you know deep state shadow government and three-letter organizations. Uh that's why you know after Kennedy you know we're seeing you know groomed 24:41 24 minutes, 41 seconds presidents we're seeing manurion candidates we're seeing um people in prominent positions that you know aren't exactly operating from their own free 24:50 24 minutes, 50 seconds will or their own better judgment. So Eisenhower was one of the last presidents, Kennedy also and a few others. So Balthor warned about this. 24:59 24 minutes, 59 seconds Okay, great. So he started to advise Eisenhower. How do we set up counter measures? Because what happened in 1952 25:05 25 minutes, 5 seconds literally meant that um we are going to be further enslaved. Um all the agendas that are playing out, new world order, 25:12 25 minutes, 12 seconds uh all the things that um people have been worried about and fearing, you know, who is that coming from? Well, they think, you know, they they 25:20 25 minutes, 20 seconds completely changed the script of the Second World War, and that's a tactic they used to put, uh, the blame on Eisenhower. So, supposedly, uh, Val Thor 25:29 25 minutes, 29 seconds advised Eisenhower between 1953 and 1957 and helped Eisenhower to set up the 25:36 25 minutes, 36 seconds things that he set up. Um, and uh, and then if he did occupy the Pentagon in 25:43 25 minutes, 43 seconds 1957, more on a surface level, it was shut down. um Valthor and his mission was shut down by the joint chiefs of 25:50 25 minutes, 50 seconds staff and the you know um the uh the shadow government basically the um three-letter organizations they they 25:58 25 minutes, 58 seconds didn't let Val move forward and um so the alliance that Valthor and Eisenhower and Nixon had and uh you know their 26:07 26 minutes, 7 seconds proposal to help humanity you know was shut down because they feared that uh they would lose control. Um, so that's 26:15 26 minutes, 15 seconds the story in Frank Strange's book, but I think it goes a lot deeper. Um, they set up countermeasures. Valthor, Victor 1, 26:22 26 minutes, 22 seconds and 200 ships stationed all over the country, all over the world are still around. They didn't leave. It's just 26:29 26 minutes, 29 seconds they couldn't help uh on the level of, hey, we're going to make an announcement and everybody Val Thor is going to take the stage and we're going to see him, 26:36 26 minutes, 36 seconds you know, talk to the uh human race about what he proposes. So what had to go underground because of what was not 26:44 26 minutes, 44 seconds being allowed on a surface level didn't mean that things weren't still happening. I guess is the best way to put it. But I question some of these stories too. I know Bthor and Eisenhower 26:52 26 minutes, 52 seconds are very close. But I almost think that the whole and I don't want to discredit Frank Stranges, but something just feels a little bit off. Not to say that it 27:00 27 minutes didn't happen or he wasn't put on VIP status for three years. It makes sense that Eisenhower didn't shut down the mission and it was shut down by, you 27:09 27 minutes, 9 seconds know, shadow government. But was the mission really shut down? I mean, and this is where I feel Val Thor played a hand in helping Eisenhower write his 27:16 27 minutes, 16 seconds final speech about the military-industrial complex and the warning and being a knowledgeable and aware citizen because what I love about Eisenhower was it was not about the 27:25 27 minutes, 25 seconds government structure. It was about us being the leaders that we would overthrow deep state. The minute we get the games that are being played, that's where our liberation and sovereignty 27:34 27 minutes, 34 seconds comes from. Just like if you're with a narcissist, a deceiver, and a control freak who's playing with your mind, playing with your self-worth, causing 27:41 27 minutes, 41 seconds you to believe something, um scaring you, and then coming up with a false solution, yeah, it's very easy to get entangled, right? But the minute you 27:49 27 minutes, 49 seconds have a clue, the minute you see things for what they truly are, and you cut the cords, you're on a completely different trajectory and that begins to fall away. 27:57 27 minutes, 57 seconds It can't feed on you anymore. It can't use your creative energy to battery up these artificial timelines because all of it is um falsities to keep a vampiric 28:06 28 minutes, 6 seconds system alive. That requires our energy for it to even exist. So, we have to remember we're the powers that be. 28:12 28 minutes, 12 seconds They're the powers that stole. And all they can do is take our creative energy and manipulate it into battering up their desired timeline instead of ours. 28:21 28 minutes, 21 seconds And the minute we wake up to that and we call that back, we we absolutely crush it. So, we might not get to the bottom of the thing, uh, bottom of things, and 28:29 28 minutes, 29 seconds that's okay. I'm just doing the best with the enormity of information that I get that I'm trying to sift through and organized until it really begins to make 28:38 28 minutes, 38 seconds sense, and that's what my presentations do. It's really, really hard to just come out and share it in the way that I'm doing in an interview. 28:44 28 minutes, 44 seconds Yeah. Right. 100%. Which is what I try to do here on the show. So um actually on so on that note when we talk about 28:51 28 minutes, 51 seconds the Guardians I just want to ask that too Laura because you know people hear a lot of the names the Guardians the Draco all these different things um and how 29:00 29 minutes they relate to each other good versus evil. How would you explain both for someone who isn't completely familiar with the idea of this you know uh 29:09 29 minutes, 9 seconds Galactic Alliance Draco and the Guardians? How would you explain the relationship between those and how it plays into society? 29:18 29 minutes, 18 seconds Yeah. And I apologize everyone if I'm not explaining things very well. It's it's not the easiest topic. No. 29:23 29 minutes, 23 seconds Yeah. Um well, the Draco are pretty ancient race. And when you think about [clears throat] going back to uh just 29:31 29 minutes, 31 seconds our ancient galactic history, I mean, the Draco, reptilians, um yeah, they 29:38 29 minutes, 38 seconds they've invaded a lot of um systems. We had the Lyron wars, the Orion wars and exploded planets like Tiiamad and then 29:46 29 minutes, 46 seconds we dropped down into this lower harmonic universe and then Maldc explosion and see these in the asteroid belts. Um so 29:54 29 minutes, 54 seconds the nervous system of the planet holds a lot of trauma from previous cycles and the Draco uh are in charge of or rule um quite a number of planets and galaxies. 30:05 30 minutes, 5 seconds I'm not good with these numbers and I'm not good with like the nitty-gritty details because I didn't serve on the SSPs. I wasn't given that kind of 30:11 30 minutes, 11 seconds information. I go by, you know, uh just a lot of, you know, research and just memories just, you know, we all our old 30:21 30 minutes, 21 seconds souls, ancient souls that have experienced a lot and Lisa Renee, um energetic synthesis.com, ascension glossery is a really really great source. So, we got like this negative 30:30 30 minutes, 30 seconds alien agenda, right? And it's connected to the um Anunnaki and the black sons are like the name, you know, the ones 30:37 30 minutes, 37 seconds that are connected to the Nazis. um are uh called the black sons. Then you got the 30:44 30 minutes, 44 seconds sons of Bil and um the sons of Bil are connected to the Anunnaki as well. Um, so I I do think that the Draco uh the 30:54 30 minutes, 54 seconds Black Suns um you know they're they're really responsible for 31:02 31 minutes, 2 seconds um really taking out the uh Aen and the Cathars and really working hard at separating us from the Christ Sophia. 31:13 31 minutes, 13 seconds Right? So these beings manipulated the planetary grid network. They put reversal grid technology in place in order to um 31:22 31 minutes, 22 seconds make it very very difficult for humans to embody their full capacity on a DNA level. So you got these two control 31:30 31 minutes, 30 seconds agendas, the Draco reptilian uh black sun agenda that aligned with the Nazis and the Sons of Bil which are also 31:38 31 minutes, 38 seconds another control group and they kind of intersect, right? They're not waring with each other. I think for a time that 31:44 31 minutes, 44 seconds they were and now they're a lot more um just aligned. It's it's hard to say. I 31:52 31 minutes, 52 seconds don't know how these things might change and alter. Um but the dragon moth Draco Anunnaki so you know there's factions 32:00 32 minutes that are Draco aligned. I think it's a very very mixed bag when it comes to the Anunnaki but you know this has been going on for a while. Then you got this 32:07 32 minutes, 7 seconds like reptilian hierarchy and um you know they're supposedly originating from the alpha draonus 32:14 32 minutes, 14 seconds um and you know their hierarchal structure would be you know the ones that are at the top are are are 32:21 32 minutes, 21 seconds overseeing the earthbased subterranean reptilians. Um and that's why people that have served in the SSP sometimes are like I met the white Draco you know like the the big guns right up there. 32:33 32 minutes, 33 seconds Uh, and um, yeah, so there's been a lot of, you know, galactic wars. Um, the Orion group 32:40 32 minutes, 40 seconds uh, and the Orion wars. Um, yeah, that's that's where a lot of destruction happened and things got really really polarized. So everything has kind of stepped down into this physical density. 32:51 32 minutes, 51 seconds The trauma that was already very much alive in the nervous system of the planet after we fell from higher dimensional Earth into this one. you 32:59 32 minutes, 59 seconds know, we experienced the seven root races, the five cloister races coming in. The whole idea was that we were going to rebuild our DNA, our 12 strand 33:07 33 minutes, 7 seconds over the course of time and that, you know, this was seated as an ascension planet for that purpose so that we could recover from these galactic wars, 33:15 33 minutes, 15 seconds planetary explosions and walk our way back home to source. You know, being in this free will universe though, we have the choice. So when these deceptive um 33:24 33 minutes, 24 seconds controller agendas come into the picture, we as humans that have the vulnerability of amnesia and uh 33:31 33 minutes, 31 seconds unconscious trauma from events that we don't remember and we're not taught about. Uh they like to leverage that. So they've created a whole system that is 33:39 33 minutes, 39 seconds rigged to keep us from awakening so that they can stay in charge. So you know from the minute we're born, you know, we don't remember our past lives or the 33:46 33 minutes, 46 seconds galactic elements of our nature. Um, and it's very easy for us to get completely entangled in the system. And a lot of us 33:55 33 minutes, 55 seconds awakening are trying to pull ourselves out um to whatever capacity. Some have been a lot more free of it for a while. Doesn't matter. There's no contest here. 34:03 34 minutes, 3 seconds But um anyway, lots of alien machinery. 34:07 34 minutes, 7 seconds AI is a part of it. Um so supposedly in 1929 they let the deep state kind of be in charge and take over, right? And then 34:15 34 minutes, 15 seconds you got your blood lines and the fact that they have reptilian DNA as well. Uh so it's a lot less the ETS it's a lot 34:24 34 minutes, 24 seconds more the humans that have the reversed uh engineered technology and the technology that they obtained. But in a 34:32 34 minutes, 32 seconds lot of these places like Montalk and a lot of these uh underground bases and projects and programs and black ops kind 34:39 34 minutes, 39 seconds of there you people do see the ETSs, they do see Draco, they do see Insectoid, they they they they come across, you know, aliens uh negative 34:49 34 minutes, 49 seconds alien agendas. Um but it's not like so prevalent. It seems like they're working alongside to assist in, you know, this, 34:58 34 minutes, 58 seconds you know, capture, but it's a lot more um the human agenda about controlling us with the allies being the Draco. They 35:06 35 minutes, 6 seconds they're they're in control of so many things that, you know, they're not so bent on this earth, but they they're kind of helping other people who are bent on control succeed. And that's kind 35:15 35 minutes, 15 seconds of the way I'm making sense out of it. I don't know. Um no I mean it's the oldest reptilian race in the 35:23 35 minutes, 23 seconds universe. So they are easily able to you know maintain control but this earth is very different. You know the sophianic 35:31 35 minutes, 31 seconds aspect of it the original grids and the divine mother and the mother earth aspect. I mean that's a whole other thing. So anyway go ahead. 35:40 35 minutes, 40 seconds Yeah. No I was just going to say I mean it's all incredible to consider and I think it's a subject that a lot of people don't mention when it comes to 35:47 35 minutes, 47 seconds you know how this all might connect. So I guess someone listening to this and hearing, you know, kind of considering this this, you know, hidden past maybe 35:56 35 minutes, 56 seconds for the first time, they're not too familiar with it like 100%. And they might think to themselves, well, my gosh, how does she know all this, 36:03 36 minutes, 3 seconds right? They might. So how I guess that would be the question that I want to ask is that someone might be thinking right now is how does she know all this? So where does this come from? 36:11 36 minutes, 11 seconds Well, knowledge is power, you know, not power, it sets you free. Truth sets you free, right? So um so yes I mean the 36:21 36 minutes, 21 seconds these control groups are connected to satanic networks and they do cooperate with the luciferian belie because they 36:28 36 minutes, 28 seconds want to enjoy the spoils of war together but at a time they were sort of competing basically they want to uh control the stargates on the planet keep 36:36 36 minutes, 36 seconds things in reversal so that we as humans digress we don't advance. So when you see the symbology of the pentagram 36:45 36 minutes, 45 seconds in Satanism, it's the it's the fifth element going into the ground with the with the points of the star up here. It looks like a devil, right? But the Venus 36:54 36 minutes, 54 seconds transits are creating corrections. The sophonionic corrections, the orbit of Venus is drawing a perfect pentagram to flip it back up again. So when they put the reversal grid technology in place, 37:02 37 minutes, 2 seconds they were targeting the ether element uh which is connected to the um dodcahedron platonic solid. And in targeting that 37:10 37 minutes, 10 seconds element, it made it very difficult for us to heal, to purify, to overcome toxicity, to overcome disease, um to 37:18 37 minutes, 18 seconds lengthen our lives because it affected our telomeres. You know, the ether element is connected to the mother. It's connected to mitochondrial DNA. The other elementals are connected to our 37:27 37 minutes, 27 seconds nucleic acids as well, our DNA. So if you look at the points of the pentagram, earth, air, fire, water, ether, and you look at the zodiac, which is ruled by 37:35 37 minutes, 35 seconds elements, and you look at our DNA, the nucleic acids of our DNA, when you look at nature and the elements and the way the planetary grid network is, it's all 37:43 37 minutes, 43 seconds completely connected. So if you put reversal grid technology in, you're going to get a dumb down human that's born into a system that uh even the 37:51 37 minutes, 51 seconds earth beneath its feet is operating in reversal because of these dark technologies. So, a lot of grid workers and guardian groups and the guardians 38:00 38 minutes when we're talking about the guardians have come in to do the grid work, which means um correcting the reversal and the distortion on top of the fact that the 38:08 38 minutes, 8 seconds Venus transits um are a part of that correction. So, how do I know? Because I've been targeted. I'm like trying to 38:15 38 minutes, 15 seconds figure out what the heck, how did I end up in this family? What is my relationship with Eisenhower? What does this all mean? and being like, "Okay, 38:21 38 minutes, 21 seconds I'm open to being shown." And uh all the synchronicities, all the people that I've met, my relationship with Lisa 38:28 38 minutes, 28 seconds Renee, who um is the uh person behind energetics.com and the Ascension Glossery, and just 38:36 38 minutes, 36 seconds deep diving. I mean, even as a kid, I was getting massive downloads. I was so overwhelmed. I was very, very ungrounded. I'm like like ADD, 38:44 38 minutes, 44 seconds like on steroids, right? when I was in school, you can still tell that I have yeah, I'm not fully where I'd like to be 38:52 38 minutes, 52 seconds in a functional communicative way, but uh I I just was constantly processing, constantly processing. And so, a lot of 38:59 38 minutes, 59 seconds the information I ran into later helped to connect dots with the things that were coming through when I was a child because, you know, I was definitely being prepared for what we're in now. 39:09 39 minutes, 9 seconds Um, but I was pre-targeted. Um, I was told that I was uh a guide to Eisenhower's administration from the 39:16 39 minutes, 16 seconds Galactic Realms that um the Guardians and it's written in a book too that was given to me. The Guardians brought me in 39:23 39 minutes, 23 seconds to incarnate into this family in order to help protect the timeline from being 39:30 39 minutes, 30 seconds completely overtaken by uh you know these dark agendas. Um and and you're doing it, hundreds of us are doing it. 39:38 39 minutes, 38 seconds There's a whole migration of us coming in at different points in different times, right? To get to the truth. 39:45 39 minutes, 45 seconds Doesn't mean we always have it, but we have the the passion. We we we're we're wired to get to the bottom of things and work together in unity consciousness, 39:53 39 minutes, 53 seconds right? You can tell somebody like you has that in your heart. Um and uh and other people that are listening and other people that are out there. And you 40:02 40 minutes, 2 seconds can tell when somebody doesn't and they're just definitely creating more problems than solution. So anyway, uh so 40:11 40 minutes, 11 seconds um that information was intercepted when Eisenhower was briefed that a descendant would come in and that's why I was pre-targeted before I was born and I had 40:19 40 minutes, 19 seconds some kind of attention on me most of my life that I couldn't explain. I couldn't talk to anybody about it. But I also understood what they were trying to 40:27 40 minutes, 27 seconds prevent. They wanted to steer me off course. They wanted to just mess with my life. And this group is called the Aviary. Um, and some of the disclosure 40:36 40 minutes, 36 seconds people that talk about disclosure related topics that are public are connected to this group and they're the disinformation um, folks. Not all of 40:43 40 minutes, 43 seconds them, and I don't want to smear anybody, and I've already mentioned their names publicly, but uh, you know, they're responsible for a lot of what William Cooper uh, was first exposing in his 40:52 40 minutes, 52 seconds book and then changed his tune. Um, some of them have died out and some are new characters in the game, but anyway, uh, 41:01 41 minutes, 1 second I knew that when I was a child. I'm like, "Something's going on." You know, I was having extraordinary experiences, but I felt this targeting on me. Then I 41:09 41 minutes, 9 seconds went to a clairvoyant institute and they helped explain it all. And there they they explained everything that I knew was happening. And I was like, whoa. I'm like, I'm going to sign up for some 41:17 41 minutes, 17 seconds courses. I'm like, they actually there's some legit psychics here because who would know? I walked I I was living in California single parenting my twins and 41:26 41 minutes, 26 seconds um there was this psychic fair going on and they say, "Hey, come on in and get a reading." So, I was like, "Okay, why not?" And uh the minute I walked in the 41:33 41 minutes, 33 seconds door, the person that was in charge of the uh little fair there um said, "Eisenhower just walked in the door 41:43 41 minutes, 43 seconds and um and everybody was just sort of like looking around. Had no idea like what was going on." And and I went up to her um after a couple hours because it 41:50 41 minutes, 50 seconds was um many hours. I had a few readings too and people, you know, some of the readings that I got were the weaponry that was on me, the attention that was 41:58 41 minutes, 58 seconds on me. And anyway, I went up to the lady at the end of it and I said, "Oh, I'm related to Eisenhower." She's like, "Yeah, he walked right through the door with you. He's your guide." I was like, 42:06 42 minutes, 6 seconds "Wow." And then I came to understand that I was his guide, you know, in that in his era. So, I came in with a really 42:13 42 minutes, 13 seconds really strong curiosity. You know, we all have amnesia, right? Um, we might have more recollection when we're, you know, very very young or that 42:22 42 minutes, 22 seconds recollection might come in later depending. Um, or it might be a mix of of both. But uh you know there's nothing um special about me or my abilities. 42:31 42 minutes, 31 seconds It's just just a mission and an agreement because the thing is with the guardian um races and groups, they don't have anything that we don't have. 42:40 42 minutes, 40 seconds They're helping us to remember what has been dormant. And uh when we look at the dark agendas, it's not just, you know, abduction. It's not just doing dark and 42:49 42 minutes, 49 seconds evil things in experimentations or um working out technology in underground bases and creating hybridization 42:57 42 minutes, 57 seconds programs and doing hybridization. It's the manipulation of the human mind through social engineering, through rewriting history, through all these 43:04 43 minutes, 4 seconds different tactics to lead us down a course that um is not a trajectory we need to go down. 43:13 43 minutes, 13 seconds So the guardians are helping us to remember who we are, our creative power, our ability to, you know, overcome all of this. So I think it's a mixed bag of 43:22 43 minutes, 22 seconds humans being abduct abducted, military abductions, um things that are trying to cover up the truth and come up with a 43:28 43 minutes, 28 seconds similar storyline uh to to take us into uh a different direction. They can twist 43:37 43 minutes, 37 seconds it just enough to throw us off because yes, a lot of those things have happened, but was it Eisenhower? No. And when we look at it like it might be 43:45 43 minutes, 45 seconds Eisenhower, we fail to see all the things that he actually did set up and all the countermeasures he put in place and why it makes zero sense and why the 43:53 43 minutes, 53 seconds overwhelming amount of testimony that actually points to what truly happened and what William Cooper later validated is something that we should, you know, 44:01 44 minutes, 1 second be paying a lot more attention to, I feel. And so that's part of my role is to help to unearth, you know, these truths. But, you know, they try and stop 44:10 44 minutes, 10 seconds me and whack me and put plants in my path and really disrupt my nervous system and make it really, really hard um to be able to do this. I get death 44:19 44 minutes, 19 seconds threats all the time. I get weird time travelers coming in and being like, you know, and I just have to block and delete. I've learned that because I'd be sometimes curious like, what do they 44:27 44 minutes, 27 seconds have to say? Because I'm just I need more information. and and I could just see how they would just pull me in. And so it's been like non-stop since I was a 44:36 44 minutes, 36 seconds little kid. And wow. And time travelers how because I know some people would hear that and they think you know what they see in movies, right? If if you're in a 44:44 44 minutes, 44 seconds Delorean or if you're in a machine or you know whatever you have some type of instrument. How how does something like that work if someone is good? 44:52 44 minutes, 52 seconds [clears throat] 44:53 44 minutes, 53 seconds Yeah. And that might be where people start to fall off like okay now she's just talking crazy. Um, and again, I can only I'm curious. I'm very curious. 45:01 45 minutes, 1 second I can only share what I've experienced. 45:03 45 minutes, 3 seconds I can only share what I've communicated, um, I think a really good source would be Andrew Bashago, uh, who was a childhood participant in Project 45:10 45 minutes, 10 seconds Pegasus. Um, they traveled back in time, uh, to the Gettysburg address to, you know, events in our history. Stuart 45:19 45 minutes, 19 seconds Swerlo talked about it as well. Um, people that have sat in the Montalk chair, uh, have experienced this. um and projecting yourself into certain times. 45:29 45 minutes, 29 seconds But there are technologies that can literally transport you into um the past and I believe into the future. And um so 45:37 45 minutes, 37 seconds that's what uh I Force is all about is working with temporal management to correct some of the timeline manipulations that uh are are are out to 45:45 45 minutes, 45 seconds compromise humanity. And a lot of SRRA survivors, satanic ritual abuse survivors, they use their abilities to 45:52 45 minutes, 52 seconds create such a strong intent to to create events to use their creative imagination to create events that they wanted to 45:59 45 minutes, 59 seconds create in order to harm us. So, it's not just technology, it's using the gifts and abilities of children um and sell, you know, a lot of these bloodlines sell 46:08 46 minutes, 8 seconds their children into um all of this and the trafficking and even offplanet, you know, type operations. they just sell their children right into it. So, I 46:17 46 minutes, 17 seconds wasn't in those projects. I was targeted outside of the family because they knew because of uh what I told you about with the guardians that, you know, I would be 46:26 46 minutes, 26 seconds coming in and a lot of us would be coming in. It's not just me. Um uh obviously uh but but in the, you know, 46:34 46 minutes, 34 seconds context of, you know, Eisenhower, you know, that that's that's the particular station I've been assigned like, all right, you got to get this area here because this is a this is an important 46:43 46 minutes, 43 seconds one. And God knows why I I was like, "Okay, I sure." Anyway, yeah, I was gonna say, do you feel like 46:50 46 minutes, 50 seconds just on a kind of like a supernatural aspect when we talk about guardians and guides, um, do you feel like that's 46:58 46 minutes, 58 seconds President Eisenhower speaks through you sometimes? Do you feel like he's trying to reveal truth through through you? 47:06 47 minutes, 6 seconds Definitely. Definitely. He was appearing to me as a child and I'm like he was in his military, you know, gu uh uniform. I 47:14 47 minutes, 14 seconds remember looking at books on the bookshelf and being like, "Wait a second." Because [clears throat] my it's not like my mom sat me down. Oh, by the way, you're related to um you know, a former 47:22 47 minutes, 22 seconds general of the Second World War and president that served for eight years. 47:26 47 minutes, 26 seconds Uh and or anything really. I mean, I I just went to family gatherings and I'm kind of like hearing things and you you grow into it eventually because you 47:35 47 minutes, 35 seconds become a part of the conversation. But uh yeah, I was looking on bookshelves and I was like that's the one that's appearing to me and and then I you know and as a kid I was processing all this 47:43 47 minutes, 43 seconds like what is going on and like realizing oh my god he's famous and what did he I hope blah you know uh to to understand 47:51 47 minutes, 51 seconds this man more why I was born here and what this communication is about and it wasn't like I could write it down it wasn't like I was channeling but it was 47:58 47 minutes, 58 seconds it was it was like I was being prepared uh and and I was shown through a viewfinder timelines you 48:06 48 minutes, 6 seconds timeline that we don't want. Timeline that is our divine birthright. One that, you know, comes directly from us, our trust in ourselves, our remembrance of 48:13 48 minutes, 13 seconds who we truly are and what we're capable of and how this other timeline is all based in manipulation and harvesting and siphoning our creative energy. Um, I I 48:22 48 minutes, 22 seconds was getting a clue of that. So when I was navigating life at a young age, I would always kind of see the difference between, you know, people that were very much themselves, being true to 48:30 48 minutes, 30 seconds themselves versus people that were really getting wrapped up in what what what they wanted to engineer you to become, the labels we've been thrown. 48:37 48 minutes, 37 seconds Also, the diagnosises from the medical industry that really keep us from understanding, you know, who we are uh underneath it all. Um, obviously, you 48:46 48 minutes, 46 seconds know, labels aren't bad. uh it can align with things that matter to us, but it doesn't take it should never take over where you become the label. Uh because 48:55 48 minutes, 55 seconds if something were to change, you know, are you going to have a voice and and say, "Hey, I don't agree with this." Um that's part of the social engineering. 49:02 49 minutes, 2 seconds And then same thing with disease. Uh you know, if you're depressed or angry and you're not getting to the root of it and you're just medicating it to make the 49:09 49 minutes, 9 seconds difficult sensation or pain go away, you're not going to understand what it's really trying to tell you. So I remember advocating for that at a young age. I was always crying about the state of the 49:17 49 minutes, 17 seconds world. My mom was like, "Oh, you should go on some medication." And I'm like, "No, I need to understand it." You know, and uh and and so I've always just been, 49:25 49 minutes, 25 seconds you know, digging really deep. Um and uh you asked about Eisenhower, though. Uh what was your question again? 49:32 49 minutes, 32 seconds I think you answered it just in the sense of, you know, do you feel like he's guiding you to tell different truths? 49:37 49 minutes, 37 seconds Absolutely. Yeah. So when it So when I was first um understanding the Gria treaty, I'm gonna have to move so I can plug in my computer. um when I was first 49:44 49 minutes, 44 seconds answering about the Griata treat when I was first understanding and hearing about it um you know I was totally open-minded to it uh and u and I thought 49:54 49 minutes, 54 seconds it was a huge breakthrough like oh yeah disclosure yeah we need this information and and um and I shared about it when I first came public that yeah there's a 50:02 50 minutes, 2 seconds strong possibility I was exposing the Mars recruitment though and my targeting and and what my experiences were um but 50:09 50 minutes, 9 seconds then that kept coming back um because I was realizing too you this is really traveling and people are really we we 50:16 50 minutes, 16 seconds really I really need to understand this then it became more of a priority and I was meeting you know the right people they were finding me or the 50:24 50 minutes, 24 seconds synchronicities pulled us together somehow and um and I could feel him and his presence helping me to see you know 50:33 50 minutes, 33 seconds wait that's just just keep digging you know keep being curious um Lisa Renee uh 50:39 50 minutes, 39 seconds yeah and uh and others you know, just really helped me as well get to the bottom of things. But I could feel um 50:47 50 minutes, 47 seconds when I would communicate something that might have been off, I could feel his energy kind of swoop in and help me and help, you know, kind of guide me like 50:55 50 minutes, 55 seconds like you're not done yet, you know, keep like over here, over here. And I remember when I met Dan Cooper, I had this rush and I don't know if it came from Ike, this is the man you want to 51:04 51 minutes, 4 seconds listen to, you know, it was like, oh, okay. Because I listen I I hear things from a lot of people and and I'm here pretty neutral. I'm not that biased. I'm not here to protect a family name. I'm way too rebellious to care about that. 51:14 51 minutes, 14 seconds Um, you know, I'm just here for truth. 51:16 51 minutes, 16 seconds But yeah, I mean, I would feel him. I would dream about him and I would Yeah. 51:20 51 minutes, 20 seconds And it would get really emotional for me. Um, and uh, yeah, so we work really closely. I know it. Um, and he Yeah. 51:29 51 minutes, 29 seconds just helps me to communicate at times and at times I'm sure he's like like I drive him nuts. [laughter] 51:38 51 minutes, 38 seconds you know, I've fallen down my own, you know, downward spirals and I've had my own issues and sometimes the enormity of the pressure and just the 51:47 51 minutes, 47 seconds responsibility, you know, no other family members tackling this particular aspect of it all can be too much. And when I'm bombarded all the time with 51:56 51 minutes, 56 seconds attack and these stories and um and uh that he ger starve PS because one guy 52:03 52 minutes, 3 seconds wrote a book about it and none of the evidence holds truth to this. Even the German historians and the government themselves said this book is completely 52:12 52 minutes, 12 seconds inaccurate. They had summits. They had you know uh just it's just and Eisenhower inspired the Marshall Plan to rebuild Germany and he changed the 52:20 52 minutes, 20 seconds policies that were really harsh after a million Germans uh surrendered. So, I guess um the task has been to correct 52:30 52 minutes, 30 seconds what they're trying to rewrite um and not be biased, to have an open mind, to dig deep, to find the evidence, to find 52:37 52 minutes, 37 seconds credible individuals and present what I find out, even if it's what I don't like. That was the agreement from the get-go. But I found out more and more 52:46 52 minutes, 46 seconds like, wow, what a remarkable man. Um because I, you know, was coming from the place of skepticism. I was coming from a place of maybe that did happen and if 52:54 52 minutes, 54 seconds so, I will speak on it. I'm not going to hide if that did happen. But as I dug deeper, I I found, you know, 53:01 53 minutes, 1 second overwhelming evidence that all these uh smear campaigns and targets on him are absolutely false. So, I have felt him 53:08 53 minutes, 8 seconds sort of help take care of me through all of this, help keep me strong, um help my heart, you know, like because I'm very 53:17 53 minutes, 17 seconds sensitive, you know, kind of handle everything. And yeah, I can't wait, you know, when I get to the other side to just give him a huge hug. So, I'm just I just can't wait to see I'm like, "Oh my 53:26 53 minutes, 26 seconds god, what the hell was that?" [laughter] Wow. No, it's been incredible, Laura. 53:29 53 minutes, 29 seconds And I really appreciate you spending all this time to talk about it, to have this conversation. Um, and like you said, you know, it's not one that's had a lot. So, 53:37 53 minutes, 37 seconds I'm excited that we've been able to kind of like go down this path and discuss all these possibilities and, you know, 53:44 53 minutes, 44 seconds how this all might work, you know. Um, but before we go, I do want to ask you just how everything relates what we 53:52 53 minutes, 52 seconds talked about here today. How it relates in your view to what we are seeing today play out in front of us on the news in 54:00 54 minutes Congress when it comes to whistleblowers, congressional testimony, uh, congressmen and women getting involved, uh, president, vice president 54:07 54 minutes, 7 seconds talking about it and, you know, putting out files and things like that. What is your when you see all this going down, you see this outward disclosure push 54:16 54 minutes, 16 seconds from all these different angles. What is your view on that as you see all these things happening? 54:22 54 minutes, 22 seconds Well, I'm glad, you know, it's it's these concepts are being put out there and I just hope people um stretch their 54:31 54 minutes, 31 seconds viewpoint um their their panoramic view so that they can see how many people have been talking about this, how many events happen multiple times a year of 54:41 54 minutes, 41 seconds people sharing their disclosures, their experiences, uh whether they're abductees, whether they're contactees, whether they, you know, recognize that 54:49 54 minutes, 49 seconds they were my lab military abducted served in SSP researchers, intuitits, people that are very, you know, psychic 54:57 54 minutes, 57 seconds and tuned in. I mean, everybody needs to be a part of this conversation. I'm just glad that the topics are getting out there. It's not so just, you know, 55:05 55 minutes, 5 seconds something to um laugh at or dismiss. Uh but I I always am worry about limited 55:12 55 minutes, 12 seconds nar narratives, um false narratives, things that cover up other things that we need to know. And um I would just hope eventually uh that somebody like me 55:20 55 minutes, 20 seconds might be taken seriously on a larger level. Being related to Eisenhower, you know, doesn't mean that I have credentials, but the kind of path that 55:29 55 minutes, 29 seconds I've lived, the kind of experiences that I've had, the things that I've had to overcome, the targeting, the people I've met, the clients that I've worked with, the stories that I've heard, um 55:38 55 minutes, 38 seconds whistleblower testimony from insiders that had access to things that other whistleblowers didn't have. And I don't even want to use the term whistleblower 55:44 55 minutes, 44 seconds anymore, but um you know, we we need everything out on the table and there's some things that they don't want out on the table and there's some that they 55:52 55 minutes, 52 seconds will allow. So, we have to be the ones that say that's great and all and that's hugely helpful and it's all so incredibly important, but what about 56:00 56 minutes this? And if what about this is shut down and silenced, we have to keep pushing for uh more exposure. not necessarily to say it's absolute truth, 56:08 56 minutes, 8 seconds but to say this is worthy of being a part of the conversation because of this evidence, because of this person, because of this survivor, and because of this deathbed confession, which you're 56:16 56 minutes, 16 seconds going to get none of that for the Griata treaty um in 1954 connected with Eisenhower. yet I have a feeling that they have prepared and engineered 56:26 56 minutes, 26 seconds disclosure to look right at him um and and u people will just go for it because people don't require the deeper evidence 56:33 56 minutes, 33 seconds if it's been passed around enough and if it comes from legitimate sources and that's why I kind of took the bait a little bit and it's nothing to you know 56:43 56 minutes, 43 seconds worry about if if you did it's no measure of intelligence it's just we got to just open up the dialogue a little bit further 56:50 56 minutes, 50 seconds um you know and uh so I like that you're talking about it and I'm glad you had me on because you know there's more to the picture than just that 56:58 56 minutes, 58 seconds and so uh but I am um you know just keeping my eye on all of it. I continue to do events. I have a webinar coming up September 6. So if everybody's kind of 57:07 57 minutes, 7 seconds like h it's too much what I just shared this will really help you walk through it. You can have a replay um if you share the link in the description 57:15 57 minutes, 15 seconds that'll be great and then people can join me and it's two hours. you'll have uh replays and it gives you a chance to 57:22 57 minutes, 22 seconds know where to find me so that you know you can ask questions and I can give you um more information on all these topics even after the webinar. I'm very accessible in that way or I try to be. 57:33 57 minutes, 33 seconds Um but yeah, I I'm looking forward to what's to come. I think it's a huge breakthrough that all this is happening. 57:37 57 minutes, 37 seconds I feel much better about this administration being the administration connected to these times. Not that I'm happy about everything that's going on 57:44 57 minutes, 44 seconds in regards to it. Um but uh yeah, I'm just going to continue doing what I do. 57:49 57 minutes, 49 seconds sharing what I share and um yeah and I know yeah why why else would I have been incarnated into this family I mean and be shown what I've been shown and and 57:57 57 minutes, 57 seconds have been targeted there must have been a reason because I would get to the bottom of things um or they just wanted to use me on a planet somewhere else and 58:05 58 minutes, 5 seconds just for whatever reason I don't think I have any special abilities for that purpose but I do have a big mouth and I do dig deep and I am kind of a detective 58:14 58 minutes, 14 seconds so [laughter] well no this has been awesome Laura and I know Um, if people do want to follow, I'll definitely share that link you're talking about for your webinar, but if 58:22 58 minutes, 22 seconds people want to keep up with you, how can they do that? Website, social media, how can they find you? 58:26 58 minutes, 26 seconds So, cosmicgua.org is my website. Um, and uh, yeah, if you can, you know, just share that uh, webinar link, that'd be 58:34 58 minutes, 34 seconds great. You should be able to find most of my social media on the homepage of cosmicgua.org. 58:39 58 minutes, 39 seconds I'll give you that link. Um, but you can find me under Laura Eisenhower. Most of my social media has a blue check mark just because there's a lot of imposttor accounts. So, I'm on Instagram, I'm on 58:48 58 minutes, 48 seconds X, I'm on Facebook, I'm on Telegram. So, uh yeah, I hope you guys, you know, follow and it's a lot, I know, uh for an 58:57 58 minutes, 57 seconds interview covering all these kind of topics, but um hopefully uh yeah, you'll check out my Substack, laura.substack.com. 59:04 59 minutes, 4 seconds I have multiple articles on all these topics. Great. Now, Laura, this is fascinating. 59:09 59 minutes, 9 seconds I'm really glad we got to do this finally trying to uh you know, work things out. I know you're super busy and I'm glad that we finally got to work out a schedule and get you on here and and 59:18 59 minutes, 18 seconds have this discussion and I'd love to have you back on in the future if you're open to it, bring you back on whenever you have time and uh continue this. 59:25 59 minutes, 25 seconds I would love that. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you audience for tuning in and uh much love. I'll see you again soon. 59:32 59 minutes, 32 seconds Awesome. Thanks, Laura Eisenhower here on UAP. Bye-bye.