I think there are UFOs. I think there are uh objects that are not operating on fossil fuels flying around our planet.
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Scientifically, I think there's a possibility for some of these UFOs to be
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of nonhuman origin. I don't think it makes any sense like even from a
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scientific perspective that uh you can rule out malevolent interest
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from outside of our planet. Hello everybody. Welcome back to Watch Mojo and the Unveiled podcast where we talk about everything related to UFOs and
Chapter 2: Meet Darcy Weir
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UAPs. I'm your host Rob and today my guest is Darcy Weir. He is a researcher and documentarian who has made many
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films on the topics of UFOs and UAPs as well as cryptids and even cryptocurrency. And you can find many of
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his films online in places like Amazon Prime Video and Apple TV. So he joins me today to talk about his latest projects
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and how they connect to the UAP disclosure movement. Darcy, welcome to the show.
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Thanks for having me. I'm happy to be here.
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It's great to speak with you. Before we get into some of your recent work, I'm curious to know about how you got into this in the first place. What was your
Chapter 3: Falling into the UFO rabbit hole
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introduction like to the world of UFOs and what made you decide to dedicate your life to researching and creating films about them?
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Um, you know, I was just at a tough spot in my life. Uh, I was only around 20
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years old. Um, I'm now 20 years older, but um, I
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was curious about this topic and I kind of fell into the rabbit hole, so to speak, and, um,
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I was, I guess, going through a bit of ontological shock, as people have coined it these days, since Grush came forward.
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Um, and uh, yeah, I I just always kept it in the back of my head that I wanted
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to investigate and research this community, investigate and research these stories.
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Um, and I studied film and video production. Uh, post high school.
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I went to uh a technical school that actually started in Montreal, Quebec called Trebus Institute.
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Oh, I'm familiar with that. I'm from Montreal, so yeah, I'm very familiar with Trebus.
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Yeah, but I I studied in Toronto because they had quite a few schools across the country at one point. Um and then I went
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to university and I studied film and video. Uh sorry, I studied film and sociology as my two majors. In um
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sociology, you get ex exposed to all kinds of documentaries because believe it or not
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um you know sociology is the study of groups of people and their behavior as a group rather than individual psychology.
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And um I just noticed in the UFO community this is like a sociological
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uh phenomenon and um that's interesting in itself. And then on top of that the actual phenomenon of
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these things flying around the sky or going into our oceans or being in outer space, you know, uh in our solar system,
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that type of thing. these odd um encounters that human beings are having around the planet.
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That's really interesting, too. So, hook, line, and sinker. I was just kind of sucked into that vortex and uh I've
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been making documentaries uh for over a decade now. Um, and like you said in the
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intro, just focusing on all kinds of different uh topics, but by majority, the UFO topic is is where I've been um,
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you know, making these stories, right? And things have moved fast over the last 10 years. So, how has the uh
Chapter 4: From believer to skeptical investigator
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the the vision of of your your film making changed?
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You know, I originally started as just like a believer of everything. Um, and you may
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have noticed um that like documentary Dark Alliance, which um it it the
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interesting thing is that one of my very first interviews as a a
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researcher was on a a show h uh hosted by Carrie Cassidy who
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has um her own website called Project Camelot and she would record these interviews still does and she still goes
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to conferences uh regarding UFOs and secret space program stuff. Um
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and I had made a documentary about a alleged whistleblower named Phil Schneider who
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said he worked on this Doulce New Mexico underground base. Um he got into an altercation with aliens and lost his
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fingers in this battle. uh all this pretty wild stuff, right? Um
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and I believed that story originally. I've since original since the very first time I
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made it um re I guess edited it, released it again I
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think in 2020 on Amazon Prime and I even make an uh you know proclamation near the end of the dock like not everything
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Phil Schneider said is true. Um and we've there's evidence that he lost his
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fingers like when he was a teenager. So, you know, it just doesn't quite line up. But underground bases, that is a thing.
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You know, there there's underground bases all across the United States. It's a strategic asset for the military to
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conduct all kinds of secret stuff, to house things, to, you know, run kind of secret operations.
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Um, and so I think what happens with this topic is people get sucked in by the
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grandiose stories because what if is the thing is kind of like bouncing around in
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their head. uh and leaving them in awe of these very confident people that are
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speaking to either a crowd at a conference or on a camera, you know, uh set up like this in a documentary.
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But then underneath all of that is probably some kernel of truth. And what
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that is, I'm still trying to figure out as a researcher and investigator myself, you know. Um,
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I think there are UFOs. I think there are uh objects that are not operating on fossil fuels flying around our planet.
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And I think it's possible scientifically if you look at things like the Drake equation in, you know, astrobiology 101
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in university, life in the universe, which was a book penned by Seth Showstack and another um uh scientist.
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They conclude that there has to be life in our Milky Way galaxy. And it's probably in the millions, not in the,
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you know, uh, hundreds or thousands. And we're talking about intelligent life like us, maybe even superior to us
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because we're on the outer edge of a galactic spinning disc. We're in the boonies. We're a new star. Um,
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scientifically, I think there's a possibility for some of these UFOs to be
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of nonhuman origin. Um, and I understand strategically why the
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military would want to keep that a secret and if they captured some of these craft, why they possibly
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tried to reverse engineer these nonhuman craft, right? All that stuff is possible
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to me. But it's also possible to me that there's hoax and there's people that come to this space because they know
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that there's such a sense of awe um and you know
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inspiring entertainment opportunity to capitalize on that they can speak confidently to crowds and to audiences.
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captivate them and take the attention sometimes take uh financial gain and that's enough incentive.
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One of the recent pieces that you that you made which I watched uh leading up to this interview is called Dark Alliance, the inside story of the cosmic
Chapter 5: Corey Goode and the “Cosmic Con”
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con. And that revolves around the story of this guy Corey Good who made all
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these lofty claims about being involved in a secret space program and going on these missions. And long story short, he
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had a very popular uh show on the platform Gaia. um he had a large following and then things kind of fell
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apart for him and he revealed ultimately that it was all a lie and uh you know
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not true. So in a nutshell like one of the one of the tough things about this topic is being able to separate the fact
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from fiction because as you said there are a lot of people saying a lot of things and it gets very confusing.
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So, what what can you tell us about this Corey good story and what that should uh like inform people about how to go about
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processing all of the information that is out there?
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Yeah. You know, um Leon Isaac Kennedy, an African-American actor who we feature in the second episode of this docu
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series. Each one is about an hour and 25 minutes. Um, this actor became famous in the 80s for
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being in films with like Muhammad Ali and stuff. Uh, there the series was called Penitentiary.
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Um, he's become like a producer in Hollywood and at one point he kind of took Corey and David Wilco under his
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wings to try and propel their career further to go from just Gaia to
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Hollywood stardom. And um you know Gaia has its echo chamber effect and it has a
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huge audience. It has uh I think they have about 600,000 paying subscribers for their network and then they have
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like a YouTube channel with millions of subscribers and um all kinds of conferences that they fund and stuff. So
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they have like um an ability to take ideas and um really magnify them into a
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larger audience at a quick rate. And um Corey Good, David Wilcock both launched their stardom on Gaia.
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Um but they did it I think from a place where
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they understood these kernels of truth that are at the very bottom of all this
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misinformation and disinformation and uh speculation and entertainment that
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builds up on top of it, not only in the community but just in media in general.
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And they um farmed those very popular ideas and constructed their their own
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sort of mega conspiracy entertainment um concept which then you know uh became
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huge and Gaia promoted them uh pushed their story for a while.
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David Wilcock, he really started at Gaia first and when he was running out of steam and needed to really take some of
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that pressure off of uh his own onus um as an entertainer and contentwise, he
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brought in um Corey Good, who was basically becoming popular on this chat forum
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called Project Avalon, which was a sister website to project Camelot, which I was talking about earlier, right? Um,
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it's almost like the it was the early like 4chan of conspiracy murmuring on
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chat forums and Corey uh was already in a bit of hot water on
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that uh platform because the the owner and administrator of that website, the web
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admin, Bill Ryan, he ended up um publishing an article on his own site.
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saying, "I don't believe this guy." But the thing is, you know, it's kind of like
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when it when it comes to like this conspiracy community, it's like that Mark Twain uh quote, you
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can convince a man uh like I'm paraphrasing it like you can convince a
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man of anything uh of a con, but you can't convince a man uh that they have
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been conned. It's like 10 times harder, right? So once people believe in a story to try and walk them back from that
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story and uh disbelieving that they were had, that's a really hard thing to do. I
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basically am trying to help accomplish that with telling this story. Corey Good
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then went on to be on a show called Cosmic Disclosure on Gaia that was
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hosted by David and him. and they started talking about this um intergalactic
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narrative called 20 and back, which is essentially um a fable that
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individuals like him became like super space soldiers and fought in space
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battles with bad aliens, the reptilians, for 20 years in the future. And then they were age regressed like Benjamin
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Button with a combination of technologies back into a younger body of themselves
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to live out their meager lives on this planet. And he's getting these memories.
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He's getting this total recall sort of thing like Arnold Schwarzenegger did um in a famous uh fiction film
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about this other life he lived in space and he didn't do it just once. They called him back on Gaia for three
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seasons. So he lived 60 years in the future and uh the stories just kept
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getting bigger and better and um you know you can go online now. There's a
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whole SSP new age community that um have conferences that are just dedicated to
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that and they have new SSP astronaut soldier people come up on stage and
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present their story and it's all based on this foundation that was launched on Gaia with these guys.
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One of the shocking things is that as you mentioned in in your uh in your series, Gaia did not vet these people
Chapter 6: Gaia, secret space programs and failed vetting
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before giving them shows basically. Uh which kind of then discredits or opens
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up the entire rest of their catalog to you know speculation because who else
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maybe you know didn't get properly vetted and maybe spewing misinformation or disinformation too. And that's one of the sticky things. It's like once one
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person gets caught lying, it kind of discredits an entire group of people, some of whom may be telling the exact
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truth. But now, you know, it's been ruined by the these, you know, certain group of frauds. So, that in itself is another problem.
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Yeah. I mean, again, when you've got that echo chamber effect, that mass marketing ability to turnkey present
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ideas to um a large population of people and then, you know, they're sharing that
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media and it propagates throughout the UFO community, which is, you know, um
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it's a niche community as it is. Um, I'm not becoming popular by speaking out
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against this stuff. I'm actually getting a lot of like hate mail from UFO folks
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that are probably from that Gaia community. Um, and the Corey Good and David Wilcock uh, sort of followers,
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they have large followings too, hundreds of thousands, right? So,
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when they're not vetting these so-called insiders or whistleblowers or secret
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space astronaut soldiers, whatever you want to call them, and they're not just calling it pure
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entertainment, which is mostly what it is. I mean, people that come to this sometimes are tired of
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the good old book, Christianity, for example. and they want something a little bit more uh interesting than that.
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Believe it or not, these guys speak to that community. They actually when they are telling their secret space fables,
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they work in, you know, hints of uh Christian stuff like they'll talk about Jesus and
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they'll talk about and they're still doing it today, you know. Uh, for example, at Corey's peak of stardom, he
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was calling himself the modernday Enoch, which is the Enoch um tale from the Genesis Bible is basically preJesus.
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And it's um, you know, the guy that was taken to space to meet God and learn how to do things to then bring that teaching
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to the rest of humanity. So we became a better civilization. So he's kind of calling himself a demig god, right? And
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um that often you see in cult leader type behavior. They're saying I'm the
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medium. I'm the one you need to come to to ascend or to have a better life or to
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be redeemed in order to go to heaven and stuff like that, right? This is exact.
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It's like out of that same playbook what these people are doing. David Wilcock right now uh his latest book is the
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channeling of Archangel Michael. So, he says he's in direct contact with an angel, archangel Michael, and that um
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all of his teachings and his prophecies are going to come true uh to humanity, which includes like, you know, solar
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flashes that are going to destroy the planet and uh you know, if you follow him and you bring your vi vibration up and you ascend, you'll be saved.
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So, um, yeah, it's pretty wild. You know, it starts in this UFO space, but
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then it becomes this big religious sort of grift in the end. And, um,
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I think that's the type of crowd that gets attracted to Gaia because it's all about spirituality. It's this very newagy thing. The whole new age movement
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kind of came about from people that were tired of just boring old Christianity. There's nothing wrong with Christianity.
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It's just some people wanted something else. And this is what they're getting often, right? They're getting these like demigod
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cult leaders in the UFO community. Can you talk a little bit about how things started to fall apart for for Corey um
Chapter 7: What Corey Goode said under oath
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and his story and how how he ended up ultimately um testifying that you know those he referred to the things that he
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had framed as truth as his intellectual property and you know framing it as as if he created this new thing like a Star
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Wars or Star Trek but the whole while he was selling it as if it was a real life thing that happened to him.
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Yeah. Um that deposition video was actually recorded by the lawyer of Leon Isaac Kennedy. Uh they were embroiled in
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a legal battle over two years uh which cost Leon like hundreds of thousands of dollars. And um
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the lawyer used the opportunity to really push all of these things that he said were true on his Gaia program in
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his documentaries post leaving Gaia um and during this legal battle, right? A
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lot of it was like defamation and embezzlement is what he was accusing people who were former colleagues in in
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this like UFO tainment business. Um, and it it it really shows I mean some people
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have kind of pointed out what seems to be like a sociopathy, like a uh, you know, something's not
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quite right up there. if you're able to claim these things were true initially, but then when you're in a legal
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deposition, uh you know that you're perjuring yourself, if you're lying, you finally say, "Well, I didn't actually go to
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space. I didn't actually physically go there. It was all a um meditative process practice." Right? That's what he
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said. and it's completely opposite from what he was marketing uh during these conference years and um on TV.
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Are there any other figures in the UFO community that you would caution people against believing, you know, the the stories that they're telling?
Chapter 8: Steven Greer and red flags in UFO disclosure
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Oh, yeah. There's a whole list. Um I would say be real careful with Dr.
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Steven Greer. Um, you know, just because you were a a surgeon at one point in your life doesn't mean that you know all
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the secrets to a military cover up of a UFO history. Um,
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he has these confessions that he makes that um, you know, he was told not to
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follow the UFO topic by a former high-ranking military official. Uh and
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uh he was bribed with an offer of a billion dollars. Okay. A billion dollars.
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I believe it was $2 billion. Actually, I I've heard that several times. Yeah.
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In the '9s. Also, it's very convenient that that person is dead. So, we can never conver confirm or
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deny that story, right? Um, that's like that's a big red flag and that's one of
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his biggest talking points right now on Shawn Ryan or on uh you know what whoever will take him on uh probably
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uh American Alchemy with Jesse you know uh whatever his name is.
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Jesse Michaels. Michael's, you know, it's weird because if you look at a
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documentary he made called um I think it's called The Lost Century, the
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website landing page, they had a funding round to make that film. And it says right on the website that their funding
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was $600,000 they accumulated. This is before it even went for sale on streaming platforms and stuff.
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Well, I heard through the grapevine it only costs $5,000 to edit it and it's just Steven Greer sitting in a chair
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talking the whole time and repeating the same points he said in every documentary that's come out before. So, where did
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all that money go? My documentaries don't cost that much. And you know,
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after I publish them, I don't make handover fist the amount of money he makes. So,
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I just worry that there's people out there that have gained a lot of stardom and attention from their earlier work.
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And he did do some interesting things with the Disclosure Project, which are all behind a payw wall now, these old archival videos.
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Um, I just worry that people like this that already have a cult following are weaponizing their cult against people
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like me and other people who are trying to push the subject somewhat forward.
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Um, into a realm that's more scientific and
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uh, you know, scrutinized heavily with some kind of documentation or proof.
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Like that's what I try to do in my documentaries.
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Um, and you know, if if it's not Stephen Greer, you've got other people that are saying that they're summoning UFOs. I've
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had an experience. I have never published this before, but um, you know, I traveled around LA for a whole day
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with the UFO summoner and he was releasing balloons in the air. So, um,
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yeah, that's what you usually UFO summoners are doing. And when they're charging you a really big clip to go
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take part in that show, what are you really experiencing? Unless you don't know all the factors that are
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surrounding your group when these so so-called UFOs uh arrive, you know, at night.
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Um there's a lot of that and uh and it's very some of that is Christian adjacent,
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right? Um anyways, I could go on forever and I could name names, but I don't I don't really want to. Um you'll probably see
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in the comments as soon as you publish this interview a ton of Greer followers attacking me and attacking your
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credibility for having me come and speak. I mean, it's happening right now on the Julian Dory interview that was
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just published. It's how these people continue to proliferate their ideas.
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They build basically social media armies. It's the same thing that Corey Good and David Wilcock have. Um, they go after their detractors.
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And what if not, you know, if that's not a cult and cultlike behavior, what is,
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right? And and that's to me that's one of the frustrating things about dealing with this subject matter is that there are so many competing narratives out
Chapter 9: Conflicting whistleblower narratives
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there. Greer's having you know one of them where in particular um just the his
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seemingly belief that um if there are entities visiting Earth that just by the nature of having interstellar travel
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they cannot be malevolent beings. like you must have you must have good intentions if you are allowed to leave your planet type thing. And then on the
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other side of things, the more official government whistleblowers who seem to frame it as there are things in our skies, we don't know what they are as
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opposed to Greer who says many of them are backineered and human humanmade craft. Um but people like Lou Alzando, for example, frame things as a threat.
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you know, we must be careful because we don't know if these things can be dangerous to us or not. That alone is kind of confusing for people to actually
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wrap their head around what's really going on. And as you mentioned, David Gush at the top of the this episode,
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there are many official government whistleblowers who have come forward who themselves have kind of become like celebrities now as well. Um so that's
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that's its own kind of like strange spotlight put on them. Um and on the note of summoning uh spacecraft, you
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know, you have the most recent whistleblower Jake Barber who now has this project called um Star Skywatcher.
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Skywatcher um which is doing essentially that you know trying to uh use psionic
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abilities as he terms it to uh attract and document UAP activity. So it becomes very confusing for anybody who's really
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paying attention to this and trying to make heads or tails because you get different stories from different people.
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Some of them official government sources which I guess are open to their own sort of skepticism as well because there's a
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long history of secrecy from the government itself. So why would we necessarily believe these people coming forward now? And then other people like
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Greer who, you know, claim to have insider info uh and are not affiliated um as they claim with governments. So
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where do you stand on this? Like what's the key to understanding what's going on in your in your mind?
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There's a lot there to unpack, right? Uh Greer was one of the original people to
Chapter 10: Who in the disclosure movement is credible?
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come forward and bring whistleblowers to mainstream media.
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Now we have a real whistleblower that came from the Pentagon environment aided
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by Christopher Melon who also came from that work environment and they were exposed to all kinds of the this data.
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I've spoken with another person who um was an analyst that looked at videos
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that came out of the uh ATIP research program. Uh Sarah Gam, you should have her on sometime. She's legit.
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And there are videos that she saw that are more and more plentiful and u
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similar quality to say the Tic Tac or Gimble or Go Fast UAP videos that were
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officially leaked and mass um you know spread around the world. So I think
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there's a lot more of that stuff and um I think there are people that were at
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one time exposed to this in a official work capacity um for a military or intelligence
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uh you know establishment within the United States. I think in Canada we also
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have our J6 which are kind of like our men in black. Um we have CEUS which is
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our intelligence service and we have our military our air force and NORAD that
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monitors airspace over this continent right through to the United States. So I
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think we have a history of probably concealing this data too and we are noticing or we're we're witnessing this
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interesting time in our lives where people are coming forward from an official capacity saying this is real, right?
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The weird thing that's happening is that you have uh people that were the most
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popular sort of whistleblower wrangler in the past getting jealous and upset about this situation and they're
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launching into a war against the new guys.
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Um I don't think it makes any sense like even from a scientific perspective that
Chapter 11: Could non-human intelligence be malevolent?
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uh you can rule out malevolent interest from outside of our planet. I mean just
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because you have uh the ability to travel interstellar doesn't mean that you're not going to exploit
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um other civilizations around you. I mean, when you get into that type of talk, you're talking about the Galactic
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Federation and a protocol in which you cannot intervene, right? That's Star
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Trek. That's Gene Rodenbury fiction. And if that's what Steven Greer is talking about,
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where did he get that from? And where's the proof? And whi who are the actual species that are part of this federation
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of good extraterrestrials that have come to our prison planet that are trying to interact with us, you know, uh I it just
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doesn't add up to me. So, and and when you talk about Galactic Federation, which has been brought up even in the
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Dark Alliance documentary, this started out of a cult, you know, in California
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and um it's carried on in fiction and it's been elaborated.
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And um if there really was that protocol not to intervene to even show yourself
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is an intervention on its own. So it completely slams that argument to the ground that that's a possibility because
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there's been so many military incursions. There's been so many credible witness sightings throughout the decades around the world. Westall
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66, uh, you know, Brazil, V Virginia, um,
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Bentwaters, the the Rendlessham case in the UK. You've got, uh, Veronv in Russia, which is like a strange case
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where entities got out of a craft and a whole town and children and adults ran away.
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um this seems to be a real phenomenon and if there is this Galactic Federation, they've completely broken that protocol.
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So, I don't believe it.
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I think um if there is something interacting with our planet, it's
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probably a very scientifically developed civilization.
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Maybe they've been around in our solar system for a while and they've monitor monitored
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our growth and maybe they already use artificial intelligence. Maybe artificial intelligence is part of the
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evolution of most technologically advanced species
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and we're getting to a point where our technology is catching up with theirs.
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Not I mean if they're super advanced probably we're not that close but we're getting to a point where maybe we can start to interface with them with the
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aid of AI with the aid of you know other technological breakthroughs if there is
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a possibility of anti-gravity or uh some kind of gravity displacement devices out there. I think this is all possible.
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Um, and our technology on our fighter crafts and uh,
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all of this military equipment or even DHS, Department of Homeland Security is being upgraded constantly with the best
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fleer camera tech with the best radar tech. And if you hear people, pilots like Fraver or uh Graves
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speak, they say, "We had just upgraded the F-18 fighter jet, you know, and we were picking up these objects or our radar was picking up the objects off the
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coast of Virginia or off the coast of California, wherever, right?
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Um I think we're going to detect these things more and um
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eventually the truth about this will be revealed whether it is a completely man-made like that's the
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other thing it's so interesting that um Greer always says the man all these UFOs are man-made and
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then all the whistleblowers that have come forward recently are um conmen and and they're not legitimate.
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They're scops, their intelligence um implants to deceive everybody. And it's like who? The UFO community.
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Like that's a pretty small community compared to the rest of the world that does not believe in this stuff. Um
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it just doesn't add up. And to me, I think, who are the ones then that are
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alien craft? How do those work? Who are the aliens driving them, Mr. Greer? Um, you know,
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right? Because he also claims that most of the abduction stories that we hear about were perpetrated by the government
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and not ETSs. Also, military myabs, military abductions. Yeah.
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um to convince everybody that these are bad aliens or something, right? It's just
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fitting with his narrative. And unfortunately, when people are becoming so manipulative
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in their narrative control, it shows the truth is slipping. They're not really they're not telling the full truth.
Chapter 12: The strongest evidence for UAP and NHI
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Narratives aside, what what in your view is the most compelling evidence that you've seen of both UAP activity but
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also possible uh NHI presence? Okay, so I named like a couple cases, but um
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you know there's Shag Harbor in our very own Canadian history um and apparently Shelburn incident which happened uh
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within the 1960s to sort of what seems like nonhuman intelligence waterbased um encounters
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that our military or or well a joint NATO navy the uh dive process. These
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divers who um I don't know if you've spoken to him, but Chris um Chris uh who wrote, you know, investigated Shag
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Harbor for decades now. Um he [snorts] spoke to the divers and they said they saw something down there. It looked like
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they were repairing the craft and it did not look human.
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Um, you've also got obviously this Brazilian case was really well covered by James Fox, but before
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him, Stanton Freriedman did a very good expose. Dr. Roger Lear, um, you know, the alien implant doctor.
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Um, I think there's cases from pretty much
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every country. Even Mexico has had some really strange uh UFO history. Um 1991
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there was a mass sighting uh during a solar eclipse in which Haime Ma saw
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covered and thousands of people across the country of Mexico saw multiple objects flying around in the sky that look like discs.
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You know, if you talk to people like Paul Stonehill, who's a former, you know, he was part of the former Soviet
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Union, escaped when uh the Berlin Wall came down, came to the US. I
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think he's in LA now. Um he and even George Knapp, he got
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documents out of uh the former Soviet Union about their whole um crash retrieval program. The Russians
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are interested. I think the Chinese have been interested. The Americans obviously have been interested in getting this
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technology and using it for their own gains. Um, so
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I think there's a case for non-human intelligence. There's a case for possibly um us from the future.
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And uh you know, you kind of brought up earlier the whole psionics thing and this
Chapter 13: Remote viewing, psionics and consciousness
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psychic um modality that has to do with interfacing with possibly them and um
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the craft. That's something that's constantly come up in the lore of this.
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And um I am currently like making a documentary on that and sort of
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investigating the history of these claims and it's just all over the place.
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I mean telepathy is experienced by people that have been abducted.
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Um telepathy is experienced by people that just see the craft. They sometimes have thoughts beamed into their head when they're having a sighting.
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Then there's people that say the occupants of the craft were um operating
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this by thought, you know, not by using a joystick or some control system like a
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computer mouse, you know.
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Um, and then you do have a deep history of remote viewing that's gone on in the
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United States officially by the CIA, the DIA, and afterwards, private contractors have
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been continuing on. Um, you know, you could talk to people like Paul Smith.
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They have clients that hire that hire him still today to remote view. And some
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of those might be military or defense um clients, right? So
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remote viewing, this psychic ability or tool to use a sixth sense like an extra
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sensory perception that does not include your five physical senses to look into the future or to look at a distant
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location seems to be very real. uh another fellow Canadian, Chris Ramsay,
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who has channel Area 52, he's basically experienced this phenomenon working by
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doing it himself, by testing it, seeing if he's good at it, and he's met other remote viewers that are even better. You
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know, it seems that uh humans innately have some kind of psychic ability.
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People like Rupert Sheldrake proved that um even dogs or animals have some kind
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of psychic ability innately and some more so than others. So, um I think
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maybe a universal language or a um universal ability with higher
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intelligence as you go up the uh the ladder of intelligence, you probably um
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have more prodigious ability to use psychic um tools or psychic ability. Yeah, I've
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spoken to a couple of remote viewers on this show who, you know, are full-on,
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I mean, they practice this stuff. Um, it's their it's their careers at this point and, uh, insist that everybody is
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able to do it. It is an innate ability that anybody can do. But then I've also spoken to you know um academics with
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PhDs who are like yeah but also like just technologically speaking you know we we can do this with you know computer
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interfaces and stuff like that. It's it's also possible from a technological standpoint for us to to like build these
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things into our biology to allow us to do that too. So it's kind of like maybe possible on two fronts. you know, you can have the natural side of it where
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some people are more inclined than others, but then you could have this sort of like cyberpunk 2077 style, you
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know, like upgrade system where we may technologically be able to develop ourselves more in that direction. um
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which kind of lends itself to the idea that these craft could be operated you know remotely using consciousness or
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whatever however you want to define consciousness because that too is a conversation in and of itself. Um and as we start to develop AI and technology
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you know it all kind of like meshes together in a weird way. Um so it becomes very hard to separate but um
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what else have you learned in in uh going about the process of creating this new uh this new project that you're working on with regards to the psychic phenomena?
Chapter 14: Neuralink and the future of telepathy
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Well, I like a couple things you just brought up. So for example, Elon Musk just file filed a telepathy
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um patent and copyright that has to do with neural link. Um, so it looks like
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scientifically and technologically we're going to be at a point in the future if this technology actually propagates and
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becomes mainstream to use thought to move machines
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uh to send information around the world. Um, and
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that's essentially what we're talking about with the UFO phenomenon, right?
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And, uh, it it it's almost like we had a glimpse of a future that was possible uh, before we even knew it was possible.
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And um, I think that, you know, a greater developed brain, a
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brain, you know, is a CPU. It's a a maybe a quantum
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um many people have said this already and Jesse from American Alchemy has even said like a room temperature quantum
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computer. You know, it's able to do the things that we're able to accomplish are incredible with our brains. And even
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scientists are starting to uh take brain cells and create brain cell um
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central processing run units that are in a virtual reality
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uh playing with physics and all kinds of running all kinds of tests and stuff.
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And apparently um brain cells are better than crystal CPUs which are what we use in our phones
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and our PCs around the world. So if we just look at where we are right
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now technologically and we watch that go up that that uh
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Marshall's law of where we're going in the future if we don't destroy ourselves in some kind of mass um atomic
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you know war or something like that nuclear war um we could start using these technologies that people have
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talked about experiencing psychic technologies um in in our in our time as human beings
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and um I feel to me like that's what it is that that's the logical that's the
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logical progression of where things are headed and and and do you think that it does stem from because even through you
Chapter 15: Can psychic abilities be developed?
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know um world religions and like some of the oldest stories and things like that.
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Like we often hear about, you know, ancient cultures and like their meditation practices and stories
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about, you know, being able to levitate and do different things like this with the mind. And obviously in today's culture, we are so far removed from all
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of that that it's very hard to imagine because we spend so much time in dealing with all of these tactile things. But do
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you think that there's anything to that uh the the stories from the from the older cultures about being able to develop those abilities innately?
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Very possibly. Yeah. I think um but I I think SRRI uh Stanford Research Institute with
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Ed May at the helm of the continuous remote viewing or ESP uh research that they're doing there.
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that was, you know, he's kind of taken over from Hellp Put Off and all these guys before him, uh, Russ Tar, right?
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If you listen to what they say, um, they're basically saying that you can
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basically develop your psychic ability better than what you're currently aware of by practicing it. But you can only go
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up to your innate ability uh which is your limit, right? And if
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you look at like an anecdotal story of say Pat Price, who was apparently the most psychic police commissioner that
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Russell Tar had ever met um during his time running the pro the Stargate project,
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which was a CIA run uh investigation of psychic abilities as a
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um defense tool basically, right? Um, this guy could like do full out-of- body
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experiences in remote locations and float around like a ghost and look into safes that were locked and see
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everything that was written down on paper and basically recite it back to the uh controller of that remote viewing session.
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Um there's not a lot of people you hear about that uh today and it's possible that those people exist but they're just
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being used clandestinely in secret sort of intelligence or military u projects.
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It's possible. The other possibility again if you go back to the brain maybe if you have a limitation in ability to
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do that physically and other people don't um maybe we're going to get to a point where we're going to stimulate
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growth in that area and uh you know our wetw wear will be upgraded so to speak.
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It's possible.
Chapter 16: Bigfoot, cryptids and the UFO connection
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I know you've done a lot of research into cryptids as well, and this kind of like ties into the UFO phenomenon to
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some degree. A lot of people are aware of places like Skinwalker Ranch, which has had a lot of UAP sightings, but also other strange things like weird
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creatures being seen in portals and like, you know, hauntings like poltergeist activity and things like that.
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How do you think um well first of all tell me what what you've learned about cryptids through your research and is
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there any connection to the UAP phenomenon that you can discern.
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Okay. Yeah. So I have looked into the Bigfoot or Sasquatch um history and I I
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did two documentaries on that. Um subjects that I featured in that were people like Dr. Jeffrey Meldrum who's
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collected over 300 foot casts from different specimen all across the world that have been witnessed by different people, different cultures. Um, you
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know, he's got an imprint of the yeti from the Himalayas. He's got an imprint
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uh cast of uh the Patterson Gimlid footage uh creature they call Patty from
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the 1960s that was in Bluff Creek, Northern California. He's got um a
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supposed imprint from an almisty in the Russian area like the Caucus Mountain regions. Um I think just like the UFO
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subject, if you have enough smoke, there's got to be fire at the other end of that um you know that phenomenon. So,
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I think there's some truth to wild men sightings like uh cryptids that you could call relic homminids that at one
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point possibly proliferated across the planet before we took over. And uh what
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we are very good at doing is extincting, you know, extinguishing species that
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have been here before us. We're dominant species. We procreate quickly um and we build and we take over and we
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destroy around us, right? So um my thesis in terms of like the crypted of
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Bigfoot or Sasquatch is that that was just something that was here that was also a bipedal type of apeike creature.
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Um and we've mostly hunted it out of existence. Uh maybe some of it lives in scarce populations in deep wilderness.
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It's possible. Some of that stuff is straight up hoax.
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It's guys wearing suits and I don't think the Patterson Gimlin footage is a hoax. I mean, I got to see the original
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footage and license it uh from the Gimlin family.
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Uh, you know, there's people that believe that Sasquatch are like portal jumping UFO riding creatures.
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I don't know. I don't see enough evidence of that. Um, and to prove that
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you need substantial amounts of uh documentation, photos, videos,
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u reports, and we just don't have enough of that. You do have certain niche groups within the crypted community that
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believe that. And you know, uh, people like Bill Merrill popularized the
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Sasquatch portal jumping, uh, story back in the 1980s and 90s, and I actually featured some of him in my documentary, The Unwanted Sasquatch.
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Um, but it just sounds like somebody who's telling a cool story, putting a a new
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spin on a phenomenon or a crypted that possibly is real. Um
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the United States Milit uh Army Corps of Engineers, they published a North
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American atlas in I think it was like the 70s and they acknowledged uh Bigfoot
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in the uh Washington State, Oregon, and Northern California area
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for their personnel. If you're going to be working in these wilderness areas, you might bump into these things. Was
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that a joke? I don't think so. I think it's there's some credibility there. Um, but you know, is there some other
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crypted or or some other phenomenon that you want me to narrow in on? I mean, I'm kind of talking about one thing here. I mean, like, can you name a few?
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because I I mean most people are familiar with Bigfoot, but like um what else is out there that might not be on people's radar necessarily?
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I mean I'm not a crypted expert, right?
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I I just kind of narrowed in my sites to investigate that which is like the sort of like homminid thing. But if you're
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talking about the uh like relic homminid theory uh that there at one point were
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other manl lookinging or ape upright ape like creatures that were more robust better for living in the wilderness than
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us maybe. Um you're talking about like the almisty in Russia, the yeren in China. Um also called the yeti in Russia but definitely in the Himalayan area.
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Um, you've got the orang pend, which is like a short um, I guess you could call
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it like a monkey man uh, that was in the Malaysian area.
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Bears are not unique to North America, right? And we know that at one point um
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North America, Canada and the United States were attached to Russia and China with the Great Bearing Strait uh which
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was called then the Bearing Land Bridge which was a large uh frozen
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ice uh structure, right? We know that like all kinds of uh fauna animals
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migrated across that to proliferate around the world. And so we have a certain type of bear here in China. They
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have the sun bear. They have a type of brown bear in Russia. Um you know they they have all kinds of cats and stuff
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too in different parts of the world, right? Wild cats. And so, um,
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if you believe that these cryptids, these like more, um,
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ape-like hominids or upright walking sometimes, uh, creatures like
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Gigantopithecus or Astralopythecus, which we actually have fossil record of existing, at one point crossed that barrier.
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that land bridge and they uh also existed in North America. Maybe that's why we see what we nicknamed a Sasquatch
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or a skookum or uh you know a Bigfoot uh
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in our land. But then the Yeran in China and the Shenenia national rainforest or uh the Caucus region of Russia and
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Eastern Europe, they see their own wild man, right? We spent a lot of time talking about kind of like the uh the
Chapter 17: How to detect misinformation and grifters
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more suspect a aspects and people involved in the UAP discussions.
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just to kind of cap it off for people cuz you know so many people are interested in this topic, but what is your best advice for kind of detecting
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BS when it comes to these topics and what should people look out for that should kind of like set off alarms for them if anything?
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Yeah. Um, ask for the facts, try to scrutinize the information that's presented to, you know, we live in the
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age of information. uh we we can find out the backstory to pretty much everything these days. Try to get more
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information on everything that you're interested in. Um try to have more than one source, like three sources is
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usually a pretty real story, right? Um, if this person that's captivating and
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entertaining, that's got your attention, is presenting this information, see what they're doing, uh, you know,
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outside of their story. Are they asking for money constantly? Are they fundraising? That's usually a red flag
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because there's a huge monetary incentive to covering these stories. And um that's sometimes what people are really after. They want your attention.
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They want your adoration and your respect and they want you to sometimes do stuff for them and they want your money.
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Great points. And I would add as just a a side thought to try to keep as open a
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mind as possible and don't be afraid of changing your opinions. And as you mentioned, you actually re-edited and re-released one of your early films
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because your perspective changed down the down the line, which I find to be remarkable and, you know, lends credence
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to your your qualifications as a as a good journalist and documentarian because we should not be dogmatic in our thinking and we should always keep an
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open mind and be open to uh you know shifting our beliefs according to new information that that gets thrown our way. So, I congratulate you for that.
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And um where can people check out your stuff? Uh you know, I recommend everybody check out some of your films.
Chapter 18: Where to find Darcy Weir
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Where would you recommend that people go?
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Yeah. Um depending where you are in the world. I mean, uh a lot of you can search my name and a catalog of my films will come up on 2BTV for free to watch.
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Um especially in Canada, uh or Australia or the US.
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I'm also on Amazon Prime Video, Roku, um,
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Fawsome, which is like a new platform, and, uh, I'm kind of shadowbanned on YouTube, believe it or not. I've got an
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account there, but uh, doesn't seem like anybody who's ever subscribed to me sees the stuff I post. Um, but yeah, like
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that's I'm I'm usually on other networks with featurelength um, you know, long form storytelling.
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Awesome. Well, once again, I encourage everybody to check out your stuff. Darcy Weir, thank you so much for your time.
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Uh, it's been a great conversation and I hope we can do it again. Yeah, man. Thanks, Rob.
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All right, take care everybody. See you next time.