perfect mood. Hey everybody, welcome back to Unveiled. Rob here from Contact in the Desert 2026, and I'm joined by
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Brad Olsen, one of the world's leading experts on Antarctica research. very excited to talk to you. This isn't a field that I'm very familiar with. So, I
Chapter 3: The Mystery of Antarctica’s Pyramids
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apologize if I have some fairly elementary questions for you to begin with, but feel like a lot of my listeners will also be uh you know getting into this for the maybe the
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first time. First and foremost, why is Antarctica the central focus for your research?
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Well, hey Rob, thanks for having me on the show. Great to have this opportunity to talk to you. I went down to Antarctica seven and a half years ago
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and it was a very pivotal moment because I've been to all seven continents and Antarctica is unlike anything you can
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imagine here on Earth. It does truly feel like you're going off planet because it's it's all frozen, 99%
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covered ice, but it also has a plethora of volcanoes and geothermal activities.
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So, it's quite an unusual place. There's no trees or bushes or really anything green down there growing. So, it's not
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what we're used to here on the continental side of the world.
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And why is it why does it have a reputation for being such a mysterious place?
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Probably because it is so little known about and explored.
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It's kind of like when we talk about regions on Mars, the Sidonia region where there's pyramids and so forth,
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that you can look at pictures, you can make analyzations of what that area is, but because so few people have the
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opportunity to go there and it's such a big place, too, that even if you wanted to go to say the location where the
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pyramids are or further a field into the South Pole region, the distances are so
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vast that you need all your supplies, all your food, all your gear and
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transportation, even fuel dumps to land at certain places to go farther a field.
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So, the challenge or the barrier of entry is is very difficult. I just scratched the surface at the northern
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tip of the Palmer Peninsula and I was down there for almost a month.
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And so, you mentioned pyramids. So there's actual structures down there that were built by people.
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Well, that I think the jury is out whether they're none attacks which are just attractive mountains or if they are
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perhaps uh built with a higher intelligence. And if they are built with a higher intelligence, meaning humanmade
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or alien made, I mean, I I think we're we're talking about a complete gamecher because then you have a higher
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intelligence creating these pyramids at a very early age. And I have several of them in my book. And I also offer the
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GPS coordinates because I want people to take a look at these places for themselves and they can make up their
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own mind. But it was told to me by a tour guide operator that flies over this
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one which is in the um uh Ellsworth mountain range. This is a real popular one called the Great Pyramid of Antarctica.
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Did you put it over on that side a bit higher? Yeah. Okay.
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This is uh the one where Ancient Aliens did a show about it and he flies over it
Chapter 4: Brad’s Journey to the Frozen Continent
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as he's bringing guests to climb Vincent Massip, the tallest mountain in Antarctica.
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And he says, "Yeah, we fly over it and uh it's just a nun attack. It's just this attractive four-sided mountain popping through." I said, "Well, have
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you ever landed there and gone and explored it or climbed it or taken a sample?" No. No. We just fly over it.
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So, that's why I say the jury is still out whether it is humanmade, etc.
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So, what would it take for somebody to actually go and investigate it on the ground?
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Well, and that's what I want to do. If I can get a film crew together, maybe get Darcy Weir here and we'll get [laughter] some He's the best. I recommend it highly.
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and we'll go down there and we'll uh see for ourselves and we'll do the the uh sampling and hopefully climb it and see what it's all about.
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Cool. Any other evidence of uh human structures, activity, or anything anomalous down there that you could uh point to?
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Oh gosh. And that was the whole reason I went down there. As far as I know, I'm the only researcher who went on their
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own dime to look into all these paranormal and and unknown places that
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we hear so much about. And so my line of reasoning every time I went to a
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research station or talking to boat captains in Ushua, Argentina was the same questions. Have you heard of the
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three massive mother ships that are supposedly down here that got the nickname Nina Penta and Santa Maria? No,
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we haven't heard of that. Have you heard of these pyramids or any anti-dolivian civilizations? No, didn't hear that. Uh,
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what about giants or inner earth civilizations? No, not that. But what I did find was that there are certainly no
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fly and no go zones in Antarctica, which does fly in the face of the Antarctica treaty, which says that it is a
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biosphere reserve open to science and tourism, but there are places you cannot
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go. And we did have one encounter at uh [clears throat] Argentinian base and
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there were two workers there when I asked them these questions. Uh have you ever even seen a UFO? And and their
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answer was we're not supposed to talk about that. And they kept putting me off. And the one woman who really says
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don't talk to him, she then went away and then I got it out of the guys like what are you guys hiding? What did you
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see? and they had a UFO encounter over another one of the Argentinian bases
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called Belgrano2 base just a few weeks earlier. And incidentally, that is located very close to the new
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Schwabinland German claim in World War II. So, that's about as close as I got to any paranormal experience on my trip.
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Wow. So, there's there's a lot to unpack there. Um, can anybody really go down there and just check it out for themselves? is like mostly open to
Chapter 6: Admiral Byrd and the “Land Beyond the Pole”
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anybody who's willing to to venture there and pay the price. It ain't cheap.
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Okay. And is that because of the conditions? They're very extreme. Also, like the distance, the remoteness of it.
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Correct. Yeah. And there's only a certain season that you'd want to go, which is November until early March. And
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then the window closes, for example, right now in late May, it's already the start of winter and the ice pack is
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starting to extend hundreds of miles off the coast. So going there by boat would be very treacherous. You might not even
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be able to get to the islands or the continental side. So other ways to go
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are to fly from Point Arenas, Chile. But 90% of the tourists who go there travel
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by boat, usually cruise ship out of Ushua, Argentina. And that's the way I went, but on a sailboat with only 14 of us.
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Can I ask? Yeah, go ahead.
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Um, can you go into the sort of like mythos around Larry Bird, his family?
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Um, you know, you talked a bit about that last night when we were hanging out. I like that side of things. are very well educated on that and just sort
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of uh how historically Antarctica sort of hit
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the world and how there was always this wonder if there was something peculiar about it, you know, and maybe
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[clears throat] anomalous slash paranormal from Operation High Drone things.
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Sure. Sure. I [snorts] have a whole chapter on Richard E. bird who was the most famous Antarctic explorer to ever
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go down to uh Antarctica. And in it, I have the map of his original flight
Chapter 7: The Alleged Opening in the Ice
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which went down there in 1929. He was the first pilot to go over Antarctica.
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Now, you'll see the blowup. When he gets to the South Pole, he goes 150 miles out of his way. You'd think you'd get to the
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South Pole, you do a fist bump, and then head on back to Little America. But no, they saw something out there. And what
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they saw is the big point of contention with another guy who talks about Antarctica.
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But uh I'm here to say that I think Bird saw it. So this is his flight. And he was very fond of saying that there was a
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land beyond the pole. But that doesn't really make sense in the context of the polar plateau because there you're on
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two miles thick ice. You have the geographic south pole. But then he's
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talking about a land, not ice, beyond the pole, but it's all ice in every direction. So what does he mean? Unless
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he's talking about this giant hole in the ice. Well, I did a little more digging and found the uh maps for the
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South Pole region. And in that area is the clean air sector. Here's the South Pole. And then this is where bird flew
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in that uh triangular shape. This is also where the reported hole in the ice is. And when I was doing the research on
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this book, I had the great opportunity of talking to Brian S. who created this map. and he is an eyewitness to flying
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over on an emergency evacuation and seeing the hole in the ice. And you'll see on his map all three of those maps
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line up. So it's the same location where Brian Saw the hole where the clean air sector nofly zone is and where Admiral
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Bird flew over. So he saw this thing and when I talked to Brian S about the size of it, many miles across, said, "Do you
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think you could fly a plane into it?" Said, "Easily." And he was flying one of those giant C130 cargo planes. So could you take a C130 down there? Oh, yeah.
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You could go in, you could circle around and come back out, no problem. It's that big. Because volcanic activity would
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create these large domes under the ice and chimneys for the heat to escape. There are other holes in the ice, too.
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It's kind of a natural formation there.
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But Brian S told me that there are snowmobile tracks and cat tracks going out from South Pole base to the hole in
Chapter 8: The Mystery of Operation Highjump
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the ice and then there's a road that corkcrews down into it as far as they could see. So, they were kind of flying over it in an angle when they saw it.
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They had to get this guy to the Davis base. They [clears throat] did that and then on the way back they decided, let's
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go through this no-fly zone again and go right over it and get a better look. And over the radio crackles, someone from I
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think the NSA, no such agency, saying, "What are you doing? You're veering off course. You're going into no fly zone." And [clears throat] so they had to go
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back on track. And soon as they got to South Pole again, they got off and they all got read the Ride Act and basically told you didn't see what you just saw.
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So this is the the core secret down there that there is something down there that the NSA is protecting and they don't want people to know about.
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That's so interesting. C you mentioned or Darcy mentioned Operation High Jump for anybody who's unfamiliar with that.
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Can you give us a little bit of background on what that was?
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Yeah, sure. And and of course there's a whole chapter on Operation High Jump in my book. It's such a a pivotal moment.
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So this was a military by nature operation as Admiral Bird said those words in a
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press conference before he went down there with 4,300 men, 13 ships, including an aircraft carrier,
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33 planes, and even a submarine. Why do you need an invasion force to go to Antarctica to train the troops? You
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could have gone to Canada or Greenland or uh northern Alaska to do that at much
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less cost and much less distance. And that operation high jump had an
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unlimited budget. It was supposed to go for six to eight months, as long as it took, but it was called off after two
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months. And that's been the great mystery. Why? Well, Admiral Bird, he uh
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was known to speak his mind. He didn't believe in in these kind of secrets and
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he gave an interview when they were coming back from Operation High Jump prematurely.
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And he said not to frighten anyone, but there is the possibility that we will have an enemy that can fly from pole to pole at incredible speeds.
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suggesting that our next enemy will come from the polar regions, which again really makes no sense because even there
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are several translations on that. And I think there are some people that don't want the pole to pole at incredible
Chapter 9: German Bases and the Agartha Theory
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speeds, but that an enemy would fly over the pole to attack America. But if you just think of geography, Antarctica's
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way down here, America's here. Where's the enemy going to come from to come over the pole? it would make no sense.
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So either way, his interview is very revealing that something happened during
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Operation High Jump and we portray that as the Battle of Antarctica on my cover
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with these German honey craft coming up out of the water out of holes in the ice. And this is even according to
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several eyewitness accounts who did speak about this towards the end of their life because everybody that came back from high jump first were put into
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quarantine and then given gag orders never to speak about this ever again.
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Some of them at the end of their life decided they did want to talk about it.
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And so what was revealed by these people at the end of their life? Like what kind of stories were uh were kind of leaked?
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So the real purpose of high jump was for Admiral Bird and it was a multinational
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uh task force. There were troops from other countries that joined. They were there to dislodge the German bases.
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They knew about that from the British who had been spying on them during World War II because remember the British
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cracked the German Enigma code. So they could listen to the submarines speaking
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to Berlin uh at a couple of different spy bases which I actually had the opportunity to go visit British spy
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bases. One of them was called Port Lockroy which just now a museum. Another one is at the Vernansky base, which is an old British base now donated to the Ukrainians.
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And there they would just spend their lonely hours waiting for the crackle of uh another communication between the
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Yubot. In fact, the very last communication with um Herman Goring, who
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is also one of the top officers of the German contingent that went down there.
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He was speaking to a submarine off of Terod Del Fuego on its way to Antarctica. So they knew there was
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material and supplies and even these honeyboo craft that were coming out of Germany going to their science city
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called New Berlin which is deep under the ice. And I've had the uh great opportunity of working with a research
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assistant in Europe who can speak German and also Russian. And we came across
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these yubot maps of the German yubot going deep under the ice. And even the
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directions in German that we translated in English to a place called Agartha says it right there in German in the original documents.
Chapter 10: Admiral Byrd’s Alleged Secret Diary
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Agartha is the fabled uh underworld.
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That's it. It's the supposed to be the the hollow earth uh entrance.
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Right. Right. That's right. And so in uh that schematic of Agartha, the land of
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advanced civilizations, it's the whole inner earth realm. And it was so great with working with Frank because we took
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the maps of those Yubot and then we charted the direction and we found that the Yubot maps give the direction
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directly to the south polar region within a 100 miles. So think about what that means. You have Ubot going under the ice underwater.
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You got the big hole in the ice that you could fly into as well as a road to go down there. So there is something going
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on there. And then if you take what Admiral Bird wrote about in his diary which was post
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uh published after he died, he speaks about going into a land where there was verdict green valleys. He saw what he
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thought at first was an elephant but turned out to be a woolly mammoth. They couldn't believe their eyes. It's like a whole other world down there. And then
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he was intercepted by two flugarod UFOs that took control of his plane and then landed him. But before they landed, they
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says, "Hello, Admiral Birds. You are in good hands. We will be arriving shortly in the domain." And they had Germanic or
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Nordic accents. And then sure enough, when they landed vertically like a a UFO or helicopter would land, these two
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great big tall Nordic German guys came out and escorted him into the city, which he described as a Buck Rogers
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city. I think of it often as the Emerald City and the Wizard of Oz, just this incredible futuristic, very advanced
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place where he went to a meeting with the master. This is described in his diary that was published and of course I
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have excerpts of it in this book. But when he was meeting with the master um
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[clears throat] he said why did you want me to come here?
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because he I've I've discovered recently that he was summoned telepathically and he told the Navy that I would lead an
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expedition down there and they took him up on it. And so Bird was then
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summoned to go back and fly over that hole in the ice, one of the first flights in 1946
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when they go back with the u with with Operation High Jump. And it is known that there were three hours of
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missing time on that flight where they thought he's dead. He's gone. But he writes this diary called the missing
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diary of Richard E. Bird, a secret expedition and journey to a paradise inside the earth. Interesting choice of
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words that it's not this frozen tundra, but a paradise where
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animals and trees can grow. So, I still really don't know how to wrap my head around that. So, when he asked the
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master, why did you summon me here? The master said, well, you're very well known on
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the surface world. And he thinks to himself, surface world, where am I? And the master was telepathic. and he
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laughed and he goes, "Ah, you are in the domain of the Ariani and you're very well known and we wanted you to be here
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because they had a message for Bird to take back to the Pentagon which was you're blowing off nuclear bombs." This
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was in uh late 1946. So you just had Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and then nuclear
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bomb experiments in White Sands, New Mexico. And he said, Master told Bird,
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"Tell your superiors, the Pentagon and the US government, please do not light off these nuclear bombs anymore."
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Of course, that fell on deaf ears. And they continued on. So Bird was allowed to leave. The same two pilots flew him
Chapter 11: The History of New Swabia
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out. They were Nazi insignia on these flugal rod craft. And then [clears throat] they uh gave him control of the plane back. He was just there
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with one other guy named Howie, his radio man. And over the radio, the last thing they heard was off vidane, which
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is goodbye in German. And then they were able to fly out three hours later and track back. Robert Johnson, who is one
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of the last survivors of Operation High Jump, he gave a bunch of interviews in his final days, and he was there when
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Bird arrived, and Bird was just whitefaced like he saw a ghost. He wouldn't talk about the expedition, just
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the flight he just made. He wouldn't even fill out a flight log. And [clears throat] then they knew there was
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something big that was being hidden down there. And that was part of his interrogation when he got back that we're not able to talk about this ever again.
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Wow. What are some of the theories about the Nazi or German connection to Antarctica? because you hear so many so
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much speculation about it and so much activity that happened before and after World War II. I know there's like settlements there, New Suabia, you know,
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there's a real history, but what what is the the actual history versus the mythology that kind of follows the story?
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Sure. Yeah. Well, it's really a very well-known historical fact that the Germans claim this whole area. This is a
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German map of New Schwaban land in 1938 1939.
Chapter 12: Germany’s Presence in Antarctica
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Southern Antarctic continental land mass or or east, west, northern like where
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doesabia sit, right? Because Antarctica is firmly over the South Pole. It's kind of hard to say
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north,southeast, west because it's all directions, but think of where South Africa is. directly below that when you
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get to Antarctica that's where New Schwabia is located.
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So it' be like kind of can't really say.
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It's hard to say because everything is north.
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Everything's north from there from South Africa. It's the northern point. Yeah.
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Well, they do call that part of Antarctica East Antarctica. So if anything it's northeastern portion where
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the part I went to that sineuous finger of continent is called west Antarctica.
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Interesting and it does jut out more towards the west.
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Okay. So all right going back to the question what are the historical facts about the the German presence in
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Antarctica? Well, the facts are they did go down there in 3839 on a ship called New Schwabia. Uh, and
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they land named the land after it. And they, uh, how many men?
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Uh, smaller force than Oh, way smaller force. Few hundred at the most. Um, and they were there for the full season, even a little longer.
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And their whole goal objective was to set up base 211, which they did. And
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there's question about whether they were going to discover a defunct reptilian
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underground base there. Some reports are that they had heard that there was this base that
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was free for the taking. Others say that uh that they just found a passage through the ice to get down to the
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continental level and that's where they founded base 211. But there were still some buildings on the surface. And so
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when Operation High Jump happened uh at the end of the war, they were hunting them down. And the location that they
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were looking, the most probable place where this point 211 would be was an area called the Shoemacher Ponds, which
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is right smack dab in the middle of New Schwaband. And it's this area that never freezes. It's a what they call an
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Antarctic oasis. And this is what it looks like on Google Earth. And this is the location of it on the German map.
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And there are lakes here that never freeze. So they were named after the pilot Shoemacher who put the sea plane
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down and then the exploratory party went out to find this base 211 somewhere near
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these shoe marker ponds. And so I have the uh the maps that the Allies used in
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operation high jump probable bombing locations where they're going to dislodge the Germans. and it was on all four sides around the shoe ponds area.
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So they thought that was one of the most probable places. And then the other places, all the mountains there have
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German names. They all got the naming rights because they were the first to fly over them and see them. And so uh
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[clears throat] there are quite a bit of these um German names on everything as well as on the Yubot maps. And this is a
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stack of these maps that this Russian journalist named Nikolai Subatin. He
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came across them in the 1990s because in the 1990s you could go to Moscow with a suitcase full of hard currency and
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people would go to the KGB headquarters or the secret police and say, "I want alien autopsy videos. Oh yeah, we got
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those. I want uh alien crashed UFO." Yep, we got those from multiple angles.
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Those are all now on the internet. It was kind of the golden age of of disclosure through the Russian documents
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because they were just so corrupt they would just sell everything. But they sold all this stuff that they got from Germany because the Russians were the
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first to get to Berlin. So they got the lion's share of intelligence not only from the fighting forces of the Vermach,
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the Criggs Marine and the Luftwaffa, but their occultic secret society called the Ananurbe
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where they were collecting all kind of artifacts, volumes of books from Tibet and anything they could get their hands
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on esoteric all the esoteric occultic information.
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It was the first and only time a government a western government openly supported the studies into the occult.
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Wow. Okay. So, maybe leading off of that question, what why do you think the Germans were the first ones to go and attempt to explore Antarctica?
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They weren't quite the first. Uh the Americans had been down there, the Norwegians had been down there. Keep in mind that the first people to set foot in Antarctica only took place in 1821.
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Uh I have in the beginning of the book a chapter called the maps of the ancient sea kings which was the name of Charles
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Hapgood's book where he presented all these maps which showed Antarctica
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in the not years or decades but in the centuries before Antarctica was discovered. Even
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on the Toli map from the year 150 CE, there is a southern continent. How would they
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know about that? Of course, the most mind-blowing one is the Piri Ree map, which also shows the outlying coast of
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Antarctica 300 years before the first mariners set foot on it.
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The Pir were essentially Arabic explorers. Turkish. Yeah. Turkish.
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Yeah. And it's on antelope skin and you can still see it in the Topaki Museum near Hega Sophia in Istanbul still on
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display. And uh here it is in its entirety with Africa and Europe very
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accurately portrayed the Caribbean and then the outline of South America and then right down here including new
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Schwaban land is on this map. So certainly the ananurb were studying this map and saying this is what it looks
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like before the ice and this is what's so interesting is now they're doing scans of the polar plateau and the ice
Chapter 14: Underground Bases and Giant Entrances
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shelves and on the Perry Ree map there's a chain of islands that they have detected are down there under the ice.
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So then it draws the question how did they map this before Antarctica was covered in ice. So, it must have been a
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really long time ago. And that's what is even more mind-blowing. And in the liner notes here, it even says that it was
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drawn from source maps that came from the Library of Alexandria, which of course got burned down during the time
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of the Romans, but uh nonetheless the biggest repository of ancient knowledge to that time.
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Okay. So there's a long history of of potential groups exploring this area, but the Germans went to really set up
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camp and establish a presence there for the long term. What are some of the prevailing theories about what their goals were and what they were trying to do?
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Well, certainly to set up a long-term base, even colonies, because keep in mind, Germany was not one of the
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colonial masters of Europe. British had colonies around the world. They would always say that the sun never sets on
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the British Empire. France had massive land holdings in Africa and Southeast
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Asia and also in a little bit in South America. Spain of course, Canada, [laughter]
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Canada and the Brits there too. But Germany never really was successful in colonizing.
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uh they had two colonies in Africa, neither one very successful. And so part
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of why they initiated World War I and World War II was to annex more land.
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They just needed it. So when they went down to Antarctica, they said, "Hey, this is free for the taking." Once they
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found passage into this under the ice terrain with geothermal heat, they found it suitable for colonization.
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And I've located where the New Berlin base was, uh, which is this area about a 100 miles
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from the South Pole where the hole enters into it. uh base 211 around the Schumacher Ponds area. And then I even
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located a third one because there's these incredible um on Google Earth you get these images
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of what look like giant entrances so big that again you could fly a plane
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into it. And this is a map where two of them are on the southern portion of New Schwabinand. It's within the confines of
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what they claimed. And basically caves.
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Well, more than caves. They're more like uh purposeful entrances. Here's another picture of them. And you can see um that
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they have this this dome or this cap that goes over the top of them. Um and
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when you put them to scale that they're very large uh enough to fly a plane into
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them. So, uh, by looking a little further and then finding this schematic
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to a another location called the thu or tulle refuge in New Schwabinland,
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there's those domes where crafts can fly in and out. You've got a submarine pen and basically an entire underground
Chapter 15: UFOs and Advanced German Technology
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city. the source of um uh researcher of Vladimir Tzinski
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um had some of the Russian documents that came out. This looks like it's more of a schematic, not an official map like
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the Yubot map, but this guy Tzinski, I've quoted him a number of times in this book, too. He was on the conference
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speaking circuit in the 1990s right when the this material was coming out and he's gone quiet in the last two decades.
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And there was another uh researcher too, I'm trying to remember his name, an American guy. He too did some talks and then just clammed up. Yeah.
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where does the UFO UAP phenomenon enter the conversation when it comes to Antarctica? There's a long history of
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like speculation about, you know, Nazi connections with alien tech, flying saucers with swastikas on them and such.
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Where does that come from? Yeah, and great question because that really is the untold story. In fact, my subtitle
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is the untold history of the ice continent. And so much of this has to do with the Germans and the way they were
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able to backward engineer dishshaped craft a dozen different versions until
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they got to the very large ones which if you saw earlier this month the first
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data dump that came out of the Department of War were some documents that came out of Germany that were in
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the FBI files And it was describing in the year 1943 a guy who was working on these backward
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engineered programs where they're getting these uh dishshaped craft to fly. And he said that they were testing
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them. They could go 1500 miles an hour and reach an altitude of 40,000 ft. This just came out a few weeks ago. So this
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is just incredible information. I I was just in Germany and I gave my talk uh to a German audience. I wasn't sure how
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well they'd be received because I don't know if you know this, but you cannot talk about this kind of subject matter in Germany.
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They don't like UFOs. They're very cold.
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Very cold. But they super super skeptical.
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But the government does not want you to talk about the blueprints. Does not want you to talk about advancements made.
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Can't talk about Hitler or the history.
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can't even own a swastika flag or even the black sun flag, [clears throat] you could get arrested.
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So after I gave my talk, people said what you just said no German would be able to do because as soon as they get
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home from this conference, they'd get a knock on the door.
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Ah said really gosh I hope I don't have a problem leaving and they said uh leave it to an American to come to Germany to
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tell us our true history. So they were very interested and they were very knowledgeable about the UAP program out
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of Nazi Germany 80 years ago now because they they had uh first acquired a crash in the Black Forest region in 1933.
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Gave that right over to their engineers who were the most adept engineers and scientists a hundred years ago. And then
Chapter 16: Operation Paperclip and the Space Program
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uh Mussolini got nearly an intact UFO craft from the Lombardi region in the late 1930s and he turned that over to
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him. And then they got all the way to developing the Bell craft which is said to have been a time machine as well as a
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spaceship. So the the advancements of these Germans a hundred years ago is just absolutely
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remarkable and it started with the women in the VR society. So the first secret
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society were these women who would wear their hair very very long and they were uh telepathic and it's uh Sigrin is one
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of them and then Maria Orsuch very beautiful women that grow their hair very long because they felt that would help them with telepathy
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and so they're they're communicating with a group from Alderbron star system
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and
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[clears throat]
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these Andromedans and Nordic from Inner Earth as well. And they were able to get
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the schematics for zero point energy but flying saucer craft technology
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that the leading scientists of the day named Victor Shaenberger. He came and looked at the stuff that they were
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getting through these telepathic communication and he said this is actionable intelligence
Chapter 17: A Breakaway Civilization in Antarctica?
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and this is the first plan of a UFO craft with Victor Shaenberger and his engineers uh working from what these
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real women told him in 1922. So this is over a hundred years ago. The Germans
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are already developing disshaped craft technology.
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You hear a lot about um um Operation Paperclip for example like after World War II, the German scientists coming over to the states. Is there any
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indication that uh America is also involved in this Antarctic uh activity and and advanced technology?
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Oh yeah. And then the question is how could they not be? Because yeah, here's a picture of the paperclip scientists
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and you can't ignore the contribution that they made to our own space program
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NASA. Never a straight answer, but they did uh bring over Warner von Braonn who
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developed the V1 and the V2 rockets and his mentor was Herman Oberth who is also
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this brilliant aerospace scientist. And Herman Oberth was asked at his
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retirement party, how did the Germans get so advanced? and his quote is we cannot take credit for
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our record advancement in certain scientific fields alone. We have been helped and we have been helped by the people of other worlds.
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So it just shows that they were working not only with the downcraft and the physical backward engineering of this technology
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but also working with some alien species that was were helping them along. And that's how they moved so quickly and so rapidly to this uh these innovations.
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Go ahead. Yeah.
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When you think of like uh all of this stuff regarding this mysterious history and and fabled history of Antarctica.
Chapter 18: German Enclaves in South America
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Um and then you know people talk about Admiral Bird's encounter and this underworld and stuff. Uh, are you of the
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theory that these are Nordics, like this humanlooking extraterrestrial race, or
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what's your whole theory on that? Like, uh, how does that mesh with your your thoughts and theories of what is
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[clears throat]
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there?
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Sure. Sure. And it's interesting that were they Germans? Because they're saying they're speaking German to him.
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They were speaking German. Yeah. Are they just like Germans that are the breakaway That's right.
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civilization. Right. Which is another sort of like theory that's been posed by people like Richard Dolan and other researchers. Right.
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Right. And that secret space program of the Germans was called the Knock Dwaffen. The dark fleet
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for all intents and purposes was operating out of Antarctica. So after the war and they knew, the Germans knew
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the high command knew that they were going to lose the war all the way in 1943 when the tide turned in Russia. So they had two years to get all the goods
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out. And in fact, when the Soviets and the Americans and the allies arrived from both directions, they got to some
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of these locations like Penamund and the Scot Works and Czech Republic and they were devoid of all this stuff. So they
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knew that they had the goods that they wanted to continue working on in New
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Berlin and Suzinski even says so that they brought their best stuff down there. There were also underground bases
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that they were operating at in South America. And one of them I got pretty close to in a place called Lefaldo,
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which are in these hills in the middle of Argentina. And there's a huge German enclave there where you could get a
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schnitle and a stein of beer and some uh it's like a town strudel. Yeah. The town of Lefalda. And that's where Hitler went after the war.
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So there's a really fascinating series that was on History Channel called Hunting Hitler. And many of these locations I went to in South America were in that series, including Lefalda.
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And uh there were reports of him surfacing at the end of the war. You know, the the FBI had the schematics
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what he might look like. We knew that he was alive. We knew that he faked his own death. This is Lefalda where he uh
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retreated to. This is one of the first places he went because there was very wealthy family called the Einhorns that
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owned it and would uh fund his different operations. This is him with the uh
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Iicorns in Germany and then also in uh the Eden Hotel in Lefalda. So looking in
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my Lonely Planet book, my girlfriend at the time, Emily Infinity, and not far from this town, Lefalda,
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is this famous UFO site called U Monty
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Orurco. So like, oh, let's go there and do a night watch, see if we see anything. Because in the Lonely Planet, it says, yeah, people were abducted here
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and and they left burn marks and they've been seen. and sometimes uh they had a smoke trailing from it like they were
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damaged or something. So we did the night watch and of course we didn't see anything but uh I got back and I talked to David Hatcher Childris who's done
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books on Antarctica and the advanced craft. He knew about this place and I told him that there were all these
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reports of UFOs around there. He goes, "Rad those weren't aliens. That is a
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German underground base where they were testing their craft. Goes, "You don't think that aliens would leave burn marks and smoke trailings off the sky?" I'm
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like, "Oh, yeah, of course." So, most of the UFO sightings that people see in the last hundred years, and I asked Dr.
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Steven Greer personally, two years ago, we were at a a cruise party and it was raining out and I was just face to face
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with them for 10 minutes. And one of my questions was, "What do you think are the proportion of sightings of ours or
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theirs?" And he said, "80% ours." Only 20% alien.
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So most UFO sightings are probably just like testing these German crafts or our own secret space program. Wasn't there a
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weird like CIA document release that happened in the past like three years or
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something where they actually had in that release some evidence that truly
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Hitler was being monitored by the CIA or some agency down in Argentina being alive. Yeah.
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What was that? Well, quite a bit is now coming out too in the Freedom of Information Act that uh he was being
Chapter 19: Atlantis and Lost Antarctic Civilizations
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protected. At the very least, our forces were not allowed to go down there and
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hunt him. But they did capture one guy named Adolf Ikeman by the Israeli MSAD
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and they caught him, drugged him, smuggled him out, put him on trial in Israel and then he was hung for war
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crimes. That rocked their boat and then the CIA, which was actually an offshoot
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creation with the paperclip Nazis, was then there to protect them. But I I went to a couple of Hitler's uh
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hideouts, not only the Eden Hotel, but another one uh near uh San Carlos Deber Loce, and it's called the Enelco House.
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And the TV show Hunting Hitler did two episodes on this, and you can't get near it. It's like the ultimate uh protected
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enclave, but it's right down on the lake. And in the TV series, they couldn't get permission to go there
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either. So, they just took a a Zodiac boat and then swam ashore with some cameras because there were people that
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were in the Enalco house. They showed there were stove pipes around the property. So, there was a huge underground base there, too. But then
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they also showed the uh hanger where a sea plane was docked. So if the authorities were ever moving in on him,
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they could hustle him out to the sea plane, get up over the Andes mountains, and go to the other fascist government
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in Chile. And he was just playing a game of cat and mouse until he died in the 1960s.
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And it said that he's buried in a uh underneath a hotel in Paraguay.
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Wow, that's fascinating. I just want to change direction because we don't have that much time left. But um is there any connection between Antarctica to other
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alleged or theorized lost civilizations like Atlantis or or others?
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There are indeed. In fact, when I was heading down there, uh another person who's spoken at contact in the desert like Linda Molton How was very
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instrumental in helping me with this book and that's Dr. Michael Salah and he gave me some GPS coordinates of what
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appear to be perfect city-like grid 90 degree angle cities
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uh not only on the continental level that are now melting away and you can see them from
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GPS coordinates but some even under the ice now where they're using the same kind of technology last year. Remember
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when they were doing those scans uh of uh Egypt, the pyramids? Yes.
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Yeah. So, now they're doing that down here and we're getting this incredible uh data coming back showing again
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gridlike city locations and even a pyramid in one location under
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the ice. So there's so much uh that is now coming out using the latest
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technology that uh it's really hard to deny that there was some kind of higher
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intelligence that was down there. Um, even NASA is releasing some images
Chapter 20: The Antarctic Treaty and Restricted Areas
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revealing traces of ancient human settlement underneath 2.3 kilometers of ice in Antarctica.
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So just collect the the data points and you come to the conclusion that was it
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Atlantis because western Antarctica moved down from the Atlantic ridge
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mid-Atlantic ridge or were they just set up there and then the ice came or were they perhaps built with the ice under
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the ice? Was there a period in human history where Antarctica was not covered in ice or had sign significantly less
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ice that would have allowed a civilization to develop there?
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Yeah, absolutely. And then in my first conference presentation talk, I show how
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there were fossils of ferns and even dinosaurs that could have only lived in Antarctica when it was a steamy jungle.
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And some of those dinosaurs have associated
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fossil bones in Australia, in Africa, Madagascar, and India. And that's where
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eastern a uh eastern Antarctica pulled away from pangia when it was the one mega
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continent at a time when those land animals could have only crossed when those lands were connected. they no way could they have swam across.
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Fast forwarding to today, we have the Antarctic Treaty, which you know, as you you I think alluded to at the beginning of the conversation, is kind of
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positioned as as this nice treaty, a peaceful treaty. It's meant that anybody can come and do research and it's like
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for the the entire world to kind of like share this space. But there are limitations to that and it raises a certain amount of suspicion. So like what's your take on on that? Um, yeah.
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What's your position on the treaty in general?
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Well, it's it's a great treaty because it was setting aside the entire continent, everything below the 60deree
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parallel south as a biosphere preserve.
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It's not a national park because there's no one nation, but fairly a world preserve, which is very noble in its
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intention. And still to this day, that treaty holds. But what's weird about it
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is in the uh language of the Antarctica Treaty, it's saying it's setting aside the
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entire continent for use of scientific discovery and scientific bases, but also
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for tourism. But what I found is that there are certainly places you cannot go in Antarctica. And that kind of flies in
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the face of this Antarctic treaty. So it certainly begs a question, why? And if you look at the historical timeline when
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the Antarctica treaty took place, first you have the Battle of High Jump in 47.
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Then you have the flyover of Washington DC in 1952 when Truman is still the
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president and uh Laura Eisenhower, friend of mine, and she did some uh her book Awakening the Truth Frequency with
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a whistleblower named Dan Cooper who said that when they did this fly over that uh [clears throat] it was basically
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not UFO alien craft. Once again, 80% are ours, not theirs. And these were those
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craft that could fly pole to pole at incredible speeds. They came back a second time 4 days later, it says in
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this article. And the the government didn't even send up their planes to intercept them or harass them or anything.
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So they were going there to set a truce with the government with the US saying don't do high jump too because there
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were already plans to come back and really invade this area. And so they fly
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over with the honey craft and to say no you're not going to do it. We've got superior aircraft. We'll take you out again. But they didn't want to do that.
Chapter 21: Which Antarctica Theories Go Too Far?
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They didn't want a war. The German Antarcticans they don't like the term Nazi anymore by the way. The German Antarcticans said, "Look, we got the
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superior technology. You got the numbers, but hey, why don't we just call it a truce, you'll leave us alone." That's what the Antarctica treaty was
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all about. Because those no-go zones are the regions where you cannot access the hole under the ice. You cannot go to
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certain places in the old new Schwaban land. And still to this day, there are
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multi-generational Germans who live there. And after my talk in Germany a couple weeks ago, people came up and
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said, "I know someone who had a son that went down there and never heard from him again, but we suspect he's still alive."
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And even uh Stuart Swerllo, who is the last surviving Montalk boy, he says he
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has a friend down there who's communicated with him recently. He's gone on talk shows and said this that
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the Antarctica Germans would like to make themselves known. They would like to rejoin the world basically, not become this breakaway civilization
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anymore. But he said, quote, "We don't know how the world will react to the Fourth Reich being in existence for 80
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years." Oh, that is something crazy to think about. I have no idea how the world would react. I don't think very favorably.
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I I'd imagine not. Are there any theories about Antarctica that go a little bit too far for you?
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Yeah, there are. And we definitely have to be discerning with what we look at.
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Of course, the flat earth cosmology, which I do not subscribe to because there's no such thing as Antarctica. And
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I tell people, look, I got pictures right here on my phone. You want to see them? I stepped ground on Terrairma. I know that it's there.
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Yeah. Famously, there was a flat earther like one of their head sort of scientists had been down to Antarctica
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reach recently and was like, "Okay, guys, I don't know if I believe this [ __ ] anymore." Right.
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Yeah. Because the whole story is that there's some sort of ice wall and that it's a it's a it's a barrier to like another realm on the other side of it
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and giants. It's like Game of Thrones or some [ __ ] Yeah.
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Yeah. And it it's a disinformation campaign. All these slick videos came out about 15
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years ago. Remember? Nobody talked about flat earth before that.
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Somebody came up with some money. Gan Decode and Juan Oavin both said follow the money. They traced it back to DARPA
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as the producers of this video and the financing actually coming from the Vatican that they for some reason want
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to throw people off the track. But what I've been talking about is this inner realm under the ice. And that kind of
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sounds like what the flatearther says is beyond the ice wall. Well, I saw the ice shelves and they're very dramatic. very
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you would never forget it when you saw it because they're just 30 stories high of ice that sometimes breaks off, but
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they're hollow underneath because an ice wall says that that goes straight down into the ground, which they don't. And
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one of the big findings from this last season was they took a submersible well down under one of the ice shelves and
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found the uh mating ground area of the ice fish, the Jonah ice fish, which are
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the keystone species to the penguins and the seals that eat these fish that can live in subfreezing temperature that
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they have evolved to being able to survive and thrive in the coldest, harshest just waters of the ocean.
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So much fascinating stuff.
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Yeah, Brad, I know you got to go, but I want to thank you for your time.
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Oh, yeah. It was great speaking with you. Thanks so much. And we I think we just scratched the surface of this, so we did.
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Would love to talk to you again about uh going even deeper. Yeah, you bet. Let's do it.
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Thanks again everybody. Thank you for to contact in the desert for uh having me here to film interviews and to my filming partner Darcy Weir who uh
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contributed to this conversation. So thanks Darcy. Check out his stuff at okalultjourneys.com. I'll see you guys next time.